• An Invitation for ID Proponents

    There’s been some traffic in the comments and some stuff going around the various forums and blogs about IDs claims.  So here, I’m making an open invitation to any ID proponent.

    I am accepting submissions for a guest post. An acceptable pro-ID guest post does the one or more of the following:

    1. Describes the so-called barrier in evolution that prevents so-called macroevolution from occurring. Evidence supporting this claim must be included.  “I say it exists” is not evidence. In your discussion, you will need to show an understanding of how actual evolution works (not the typical ID strawman), how new taxonomic groups are formed (hint, I’ve described this in detail), and an explanation of how new taxonomic orders arise if not by evolution (the designer did it is not an explanation unless you provide evidence for the designer as well).
    2. Who is the designer and the evidence for the DESIGNER to exist (not any supposed works of said designer). It’s very silly to say that the tooth fairy is the cause of teeth disappearing when there’s no evidence that the tooth fair exists. Inferences about a designer are not sufficient when there is an alternate explanation for the diversity of life.
    3. The computation of complexity, specified complexity, complex specified information, or any other ID notion about complexity, information, or specificity. This computation can be for a gene, a protein, a structure, or an organism. The same computation for a non-designed system (you choose, but examples would be a rock of the same mass as an organism, a string of random numbers the same length as the gene or protein (include a string of data that has been encrypted using an approved method (256 bit AES for example)).  In this description all variables should be explicitly defined and explained. The results should also be explained (i.e. why does this value indicate design while that value indicates non-design.)
    4. The existence of front-loading in any open-source genetic algorithm. I have often heard that programmers ‘design’ the results of genetic algorithms by inserting the ‘correct’ values in the program somehow. Since there are numerous examples of open-source genetic algorithms, it should be trivial to determine where, exactly, the information is front-loaded.  An alternate version of this would be a detailed explanation of how a ‘search’ in a genetic algorithm is different from a ‘search’ by a population in the real world.  This should be mathematically rigorous not “because living things are different than programs”.
    5. Which is the designer responsible for and why? A) The creation of the entire universe and everything in it.  B) The creation of only living things on Earth. C) The creation of only ‘complex’ (include a definition and how you determine complexity) structures in organisms. D) The front-loading of living things with genes that will help their descendants survive (examples required). E) something not yet mentioned by ID advocates.
    6.  A page number of any description of any of this or experiments that support these statements in Meyer’s Darwin’s Doubt. I have asked this multiple times from multiple people who feel that my treatment of Darwin’s Doubt is incomplete.  Yet not a single one of them have responded.

    I would encourage all of you to read my review of The Monkey’s Voyage to see how evidence against a scientific paradigm is discovered, presented, and used to actually change a prevailing paradigm.

    Finally, let me say that everything on this list is a direct result of comments made by supporters of intelligent design. If you disagree with those statements, then I suggest you get with other ID supporters and work out exactly what it is you think before haranguing scientists and school children about ID. 

    If you have the ability or interest in answering one of these questions, then write it up, use the contact link above and send it to me.  The only editing I will do is for basic HTML formatting.

    Category: Creationism


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