{"id":3416,"date":"2013-09-26T15:32:57","date_gmt":"2013-09-26T15:32:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/?p=3416"},"modified":"2013-09-26T15:34:33","modified_gmt":"2013-09-26T15:34:33","slug":"bill-oreilly-is-killingjesus-scholarship-a-short-review","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/2013\/09\/26\/bill-oreilly-is-killingjesus-scholarship-a-short-review\/","title":{"rendered":"Bill O\u2019Reilly is #killingjesus Scholarship\u2013A Short Review"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\">This week the next big book in Jesus scholarship hit the stores. Well, I guess it\u2019s big in the sense that it is attached to a well-known name, Fox News\u2019 host\/anchor\/pundit Bill O\u2019Reilly. Earlier I had heard about his book,\u00a0<a title=\"O\u2019Reilly is Killing\u00a0Jesus\" href=\"http:\/\/gilgamesh42.wordpress.com\/2013\/02\/21\/oreilly-is-killing-jesus\/\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Killing Jesus<\/i>,\u00a0<\/a>which was a bit easy to make fun with since the artwork for the cover suggested who the murder was, and his previous major book with a similar title,\u00a0<em>Killing Lincoln<\/em>, was considered so riddled with factual errors that Lincoln-connected museums were not willing to sell it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">But now the book is out, written with Martin Dugard (who was also responsible for O\u2019Reilly\u2019s other\u00a0<em>Killing<\/em>books). I don\u2019t have the book itself (I\u2019m cheap), but Google allows for searching the volume and previewing, so I could look at the materials related to the early years of JC, or so as Bill believed them to be. I had expected the authors to not be very critical of the historicity of what the Gospels say, but there were some surprises. I\u2019m also just going to focus on the Nativity story as related by Bill. In other words, it\u2019s only September and I am beginning the War on Christmas!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i.chzbgr.com\/maxW500\/5509167616\/h3DC4227A\/\" width=\"492\" height=\"420\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">First thing to note is that there is not a lot of reference to modern scholarship on the points of the natal accounts. While Raymond Brown\u2019s 2-volume work\u00a0<em>The Death of the Messiah<\/em>receives an honorary mention, his even more famous\u00a0<em>Birth of the Messiah<\/em>\u00a0is not mentioned. Odd considering that O\u2019Reilly and Dugard are both Catholics, as was Brown. The notes for the first chapter contain almost no scholarly records, save one related to the Star of Bethlehem (more on that below). So it seems the authors have not engaged in the sorts of works that would have been need to understand a 2000 year old book. I\u2019m not going to read Homer without some help understanding its cultural background, so why do the Gospels get a pass?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">The background info that the authors establish is also not great. For example, they claim that the Magi \u201cstud[ied] the world\u2019s great religious texts\u201d. How do they know this to be true in the time of Jesus? Besides, why would Zoroastrian priests care so much about Jewish scripture? Seems that because there is a story of Magi coming to a Jewish king\/messiah means that they must have had such an interest; without evidence, all I see is circularity. Bill also says that the Magi had stopped by to see Herod and pay their respects to him before finding Jesus. Well, I don\u2019t know where he gets that. It\u2019s not in my Bible, and I can\u2019t think of an apocryphal tradition that suggests this either.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">The authors also claim that there are five prophecies that the messiah\u2019s birth was attached to: a great star, born in Bethlehem, a descendant of David, men from afar would come to worship him, his mama\u2019s a virgin. Again, how does Bill know these are the prophecies that people expected? For example, there were messiahs believed to come about that weren\u2019t Davidic (i.e. the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Messiah_ben_Joseph\" target=\"_blank\">Messiah Ben Joseph<\/a>). And the virgin birth prophecy has been such a headache for scholars, and there isn\u2019t any clear indications that it was expected of a Jewish hero. That the messiah was expected to be from Bethlehem is also thin on evidence from 2nd Temple Judaism. Instead, it looks like Bill read ahead in the Gospel of Matthew and retrojected its claims into \u201cexpected prophecies to be fulfilled\u201d. The authors of this book also seem to allow imagination to become history when they describe how Herod looked from the window of his palace (Billo calls it a castle, which is anachronistic) at the Temple and frets over baby Jesus. The way it is written seems like a novel, especially with the use of the present tense, so I suspect that the authors aren\u2019t up on genre theory and practice. You are supposed to keep the fiction and history separate. What are you guys writing, a gospel?\u00a0<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\":twisted:\" src=\"http:\/\/s2.wp.com\/wp-includes\/images\/smilies\/icon_twisted.gif?m=1129645325g\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">But the bit of meat in this chapter that got my attention was how the Star of Bethlehem and its relation to the Magi were described.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The wealthy foreigners travel almost a thousand miles over rugged desert, following an extraordinary light that shines in the sky each morning before dawn.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">In a note, O\u2019Reilly &amp; Dugard refer to a 1991 paper by Colin Humphreys in the\u00a0<em>Quarterly Journal of the Royal Astronomical\u00a0<\/em><i>Society<\/i>\u00a0(<a href=\"http:\/\/adsabs.harvard.edu\/abs\/1991QJRAS..32..389H\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>) which argues that the Star was a comet in March of 5 BCE.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Due to the earth\u2019s orbital motion, the comet\u2019s light would have been directly in front of the Magi during their journey\u2013hence they would have truly followed the star.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">First off, these guys aren\u2019t reading their Bibles. There is the popular notion that the Star led the Magi all the way from Persia to Jerusalem, but the Gospel of Matthew only describes the Star doing this from Jerusalem to Bethlehem. Looks like Bill based his knowledge of the Bible on the song\u00a0<em>We Three Kings<\/em>. Now, the Humphreys paper doesn\u2019t make this mistake, so I don\u2019t know if they even read it. Also, the orbital movements of the Earth are not the cause of the \u201cleading\u201d of the Star; the comet moves from east to west because of the rotation of the planet, not its revolution about the Sun. This basic point of astronomy is off.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Moreover, how can the comet lead the Magi to Jerusalem? As the authors themselves say, it appeared each morning before dawn in the\u00a0<em>east<\/em>. How could they then follow it\u00a0<em>west<\/em>towards Jerusalem from Persia? Eventually in the night or day it would be in the west, but this means that the now rather confused Magi are making all sorts of weird paths\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/what-if.xkcd.com\/25\/\" target=\"_blank\">as demonstrated by xkcd<\/a>. Again, basic astronomy is simply not understood here. I wish to highlight that Humphreys did not make this mistake; it\u2019s all on Bill and Martin.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">But a comet doesn\u2019t explain the motions and other aspects of the Star of Bethlehem. It cannot lead anyone, including for the journey from Jerusalem to Bethlehem (as Matt 2:9 actually describes), nor can a comet stop over a particular locale. Moreover, comets were considered the most evil of celestial omens to the Romans and Persians. Had O\u2019Reilly read Brown\u2019s\u00a0<em>Birth of the Messiah<\/em>, he probably wouldn\u2019t have made these mistakes.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" alt=\"9780956694867- Font Cover\" src=\"http:\/\/gilgamesh42.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/09\/9780956694867-font-cover.jpg?w=96&amp;h=150\" width=\"96\" height=\"148\" \/>To get the complete take-down of the comet hypothesis and all naturalistic explanations of the Star as well as its historicity, you will want to check out my upcoming book\u00a0<em>The Star of Bethlehem: A Skeptical View<\/em>. I sent it to the printers today, so it should be available online in the near future. So if you already bought Bill\u2019s book, I\u2019m sorry. But you can at least get a companion volume to make yourself and others feel better, not to mention learn some correct astronomy and history.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Now, I have hardly scratched the surface of the historical problems this book has. I could mention how Bill says that Herod was a secular man (he was Jewish; he rebuilt the Temple, after all; cf. Josephus,\u00a0<em>BJ<\/em>\u00a02.13), the Magi on their own decided not to return to Herod (Matthew says an angel told them not to go back, hardly a sign of the wise men\u2019s initiative), how Judea was a part of the province of Syria (it was a client kingdom in the days of Herod), and so much more. Joel Watts has given the book a read-through and has seen a horde of issues, great and small (<a href=\"http:\/\/unsettledchristianity.com\/2013\/09\/killingjesus-chapter-1-could-you-be-more-wrong\/\" target=\"_blank\">1<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/unsettledchristianity.com\/2013\/09\/killingjesus-chapter-5-when-history-doesnt-fit-make-up-new-stuff\/\" target=\"_blank\">2<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/unsettledchristianity.com\/2013\/09\/killingjesus-chapter-6-liberals-die-and-go-to-hell\/\" target=\"_blank\">3<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/unsettledchristianity.com\/2013\/09\/killingjesus-chapters-8-11-anachronisms\/\" target=\"_blank\">4<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/unsettledchristianity.com\/2013\/09\/killingjesus-chapters-12-21-im-sorry\/\" target=\"_blank\">5<\/a>), and I won\u2019t be surprised to find other critical scholars finding problems with this volume. In the end, it\u2019s Billo killing Jesus scholarship, and in part to forward his political and theological ideology.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">[check out this post on Aaron&#8217;s own blog <a href=\"http:\/\/gilgamesh42.wordpress.com\/2013\/09\/25\/bill-oreilly-is-killingjesus-scholarship-a-short-review\/\">here<\/a>]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week the next big book in Jesus scholarship hit the stores. Well, I guess it\u2019s big in the sense that it is attached to a well-known name, Fox News\u2019 host\/anchor\/pundit Bill O\u2019Reilly. Earlier I had heard about his book, Killing Jesus, which was a bit easy to make fun with since the artwork for the cover suggested who the murder was, and his previous major book with a similar title, Killing Lincoln, was considered so riddled with factual errors that Lincoln-connected museums were not willing to sell it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":31,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,23],"tags":[715,188,573,609,286,45,700,56,574,1748,198,370,87,580,104,107,110,980],"class_list":["post-3416","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-biblical-exegesis","category-skepticism","tag-aaron","tag-astrology","tag-astronomy","tag-bible","tag-bill-oreilly","tag-christianity","tag-christmas","tag-fox-news","tag-history-2","tag-jesus","tag-nativity","tag-new-testament","tag-politics-2","tag-religion","tag-science-2","tag-skepticism-2","tag-star-of-bethlehem","tag-war-of-christmas"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3416","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/31"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3416"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3416\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3416"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3416"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3416"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}