{"id":1900,"date":"2013-03-09T11:41:10","date_gmt":"2013-03-09T11:41:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/?p=1900"},"modified":"2013-03-09T14:21:16","modified_gmt":"2013-03-09T14:21:16","slug":"christians-watch-this-and-then-tell-me-your-god-underwrites-morality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/2013\/03\/09\/christians-watch-this-and-then-tell-me-your-god-underwrites-morality\/","title":{"rendered":"Christians, watch this and then tell me your God underwrites morality&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\">WARNING. Watch this video will disturb you. It is horrific. But I ask that you do so, Christian, Muslim, atheist or other. You will never watch it again, and it will scar you. But remember, this activity was divinely decreed by an all-loving God. Yes, all-loving. And for what? For all of the actions below. Am I going over the top? Is this snuff?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">The reason I post this is as follows. Christians (and Muslims) often argue the Old Testament directives in a kind of abstract, intellectual manner, distanced from the reality and brutality of such death. It is easy to defend something which is conceptual and distant. But is it so easy to defend when you see it before your eyes, in seemingly the way your all-loving God commanded? I think not. And I think this is a really powerful indictment of God. This rather violent Old Testament incarnation of God was dismissed as a demiurge by early bishop Marcion. And for good reason. The rather vicious and parochial nature of Yahweh just didn&#8217;t seem to fit with the New Testament. Or is it that the New Testament doesn&#8217;t really fit with what God is more actually like (if he existed)? This is hardcore. This is the world of the Bible. Either it is morally abhorrent, or it is not. And don&#8217;t give me Covenantal Moral Relativism. That&#8217;s bullshit. If God decreed this as morally justified then, then the birth and death of Jesus (and his fulfillment of every jot and tittle of the law) doesn&#8217;t change a damned thing. Suddenly homosexuality is OK enough NOT to be punishable by death? Trying to convert people to another religion? Should I be stoned for espousing atheism?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Even in modern societies which do still have the death penalty (come on US, catch up) it is done as humanely as possible, if that is not an oxymoron. There is so much wrong with the Old Testament. This is a massive example of it abhorrence.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">The question is, would YOU throw a stone? And if not, how is it acceptable that these people do or did? And before you give me the quote from John about casting the first stone (\u201cHe who is without sin among you, let him\u00a0be the\u00a0first to throw a stone at her.\u201d John 8:7), that is a well known interpolation, and Jesus didn&#8217;t say that.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Conclusion &#8211; those who defend the Old Testament and its decrees are no better than the people stoning this Muslim couple. Discuss.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">[UPDATE: people I have spoken to elsewhere online about this post have declared that they are unable to watch this video. Which is immensely powerful, and kind of the point. It is THAT intuitively morally disgusting.]<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/youtu.be\/rBjkoPZIUco<\/p>\n<p>Here is the entry from RationalWiki entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Actions_punishable_by_death_in_the_Old_Testament\">Actions punishable by death in the Old Testament<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>General<\/h2>\n<p>The Hebrew Bible or\u00a0<a title=\"Tanakh\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Tanakh\">Tanakh<\/a>\u00a0(the source for the Christian Old Testament), which forms the core texts of the Halakha, or corpus of\u00a0<a title=\"Judaism\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Judaism\">Jewish<\/a>\u00a0divine\u00a0<a title=\"Law\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Law\">law<\/a>, include a surprising number of\u00a0<a title=\"Crime\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Crime\">crimes<\/a>\u00a0which merit the\u00a0<a title=\"Capital punishment\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Capital_punishment\">death penalty<\/a>\u00a0as\u00a0<a title=\"Punishment\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Punishment\">punishment<\/a>. These laws were believed to form an integral part of the overall &#8220;Covenant&#8221; between the\u00a0<a title=\"Israel\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Israel\">Israelites<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a title=\"YHWH\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/YHWH\">YHWH<\/a>. When the Christians adopted the Old Testament as their canon, neither they as a body, or\u00a0<a title=\"Jesus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Jesus\">Jesus<\/a>\u00a0as the\u00a0<a title=\"Messiah\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Messiah\">Messiah<\/a>\u00a0revised or redacted any of these laws, for all they edited the Hebrew texts.<\/p>\n<p>Crimes that merit the death penalty are generally crimes against God. A smaller, but no less important set of capital crimes are sexual transgressions. It should be noted that things we consider crimes (like rape and child abuse) are not what the Old Testament is talking about. Sexual transgressions typically relate to a failure to comport oneself (sexually) in a manner that adds to the community. Adultery and masturbation are as bad or worse than modern crimes of molestation or rape &#8211; simply because they challenged such moral issues as &#8220;Who of my children is really mine, so gets my land&#8221;, and &#8220;The more sons I have the more land I can work, so the more money I own.&#8221; Taken by the word of God alone, however, one just has to assume that God cares if you touch yourself or find someone sexy before you are married. Though exactly\u00a0<em>why<\/em>God should have such a deep and abiding interest in the sexual and marital predications of his creations is not clear. The religious laws describe the various rituals and taboos involved in the proper way of worshipping the Israelite\u00a0<a title=\"God\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/God\">God<\/a>, and also seek to prevent\u00a0<a title=\"Apostasy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Apostasy\">apostasy<\/a>. At least in this case, the reasoning behind assassinating anybody who stepped out of line is clear.<\/p>\n<p>The rules in the\u00a0<a title=\"Torah\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Torah\">Torah<\/a>\u00a0still form a part of the body of the\u00a0<a title=\"Jewish\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Jewish\">Jewish<\/a>\u00a0law, though they fortunately cannot be considered a complete description of Jewish law. This is because no legal system can be fully understood without also considering the way its rules are being interpreted and applied in practice by the courts and other institutions of its\u00a0<a title=\"Society\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Society\">society<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; or, for that matter, the body of rituals and social conventions surrounding such institutions. For example, a Jewish court could not say that it was acceptable to sell your daughter into slavery, even if that is the alternative to killing her for a misdeed. Today, only a few isolated\u00a0<a title=\"Islam\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Islam\">Islamic<\/a>\u00a0courts have ever actually applied the death penalties for apostasy and sexual crimes in the modern era, despite the fact that many\u00a0<a title=\"Honor killings\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Honor_killings\">honor killings<\/a>\u00a0occur claiming to be legally sanctioned.<sup><a href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Actions_punishable_by_death_in_the_Old_Testament#cite_note-0\">[1]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>There are also a few\u00a0<a title=\"Fundamentalist\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Fundamentalist\">fundamentalist<\/a>\u00a0<a title=\"Christian\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Christian\">Christians<\/a>\u00a0such as the followers of\u00a0<a title=\"Dominionism\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Dominionism\">Dominionism<\/a>\u00a0who feel that the death penalties as described should to be enforced today.<sup><a href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Actions_punishable_by_death_in_the_Old_Testament#cite_note-1\">[2]<\/a><\/sup><sup><a href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Actions_punishable_by_death_in_the_Old_Testament#cite_note-2\">[3]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<h2>Sexual activities<\/h2>\n<div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/File:ChurchSign.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/w\/images\/thumb\/b\/bf\/ChurchSign.png\/180px-ChurchSign.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"180\" height=\"231\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div>\n<div><a title=\"Enlarge\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/File:ChurchSign.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/w\/skins\/common\/images\/magnify-clip.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"15\" height=\"11\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever &#8217;til the end of time! But He loves you.&#8221; \u2014<a title=\"George Carlin\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/George_Carlin\">George Carlin<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"Adultery\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Adultery\">Adultery<\/a>\u00a0(<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:10\">Leviticus 20:10<\/a>-12, man and woman)<\/li>\n<li>Lying about virginity. Applies to\u00a0<a title=\"Girl\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Girl\">girls<\/a>\u00a0who are still in their fathers&#8217; homes, who lie about their virginity, and are presented to their husband as a virgin. The accused is guilty until proved innocent. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_22:20\">Deuteronomy 22:20<\/a>-21)<\/li>\n<li>The daughter of a priest practicing\u00a0<a title=\"Prostitution\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Prostitution\">prostitution<\/a>\u00a0(death by fire) (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_21:9\">Leviticus 21:9<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Rape of a\u00a0<a title=\"Virgin\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Virgin\">virgin<\/a>\u00a0who is engaged. If she is not engaged you only have to marry her and give her father 50 shekels. No mention is made of the girl\u2019s opinion, and no punishment is specified for raping a single non-virgin female. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_22:25\">Deuteronomy 22:25<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Being the victim of rape, if one is an engaged female\u00a0<a title=\"Virgin\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Virgin\">virgin<\/a>\u00a0and the rape occurs in a city. If it takes place in a field, the victim is spared because nobody would have heard her screams. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_22:23\">Deuteronomy 22:23<\/a>-27)\u00a0<em>Presumably, virgins who scream for help inside a city will always be rescued.<\/em><\/li>\n<li>Men practicing\u00a0<a title=\"Bestiality\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Bestiality\">bestiality<\/a>. (Both man and animal die). (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:15\">Leviticus 20:15<\/a>)\u00a0<sup><a href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Actions_punishable_by_death_in_the_Old_Testament#cite_note-a-3\">[4]<\/a><\/sup><\/li>\n<li>Women practicing bestiality (Both woman and animal die). (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:16\">Leviticus 20:16<\/a>)\u00a0<sup><a href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Actions_punishable_by_death_in_the_Old_Testament#cite_note-a-3\">[4]<\/a><\/sup><\/li>\n<li>Having sex with your father\u2019s wife, as distinct from &#8220;your mother&#8221;, as it was common practice for men at the time to have several wives. (both die) (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:20\">Leviticus 20:20<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Having sex with your daughter-in-law. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:30\">Leviticus 20:30<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Incest\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Incest\">Incest<\/a>. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:17\">Leviticus 20:17<\/a>)\u00a0<sup><a href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Actions_punishable_by_death_in_the_Old_Testament#cite_note-4\">[5]<\/a><\/sup><\/li>\n<li>(for men): Sex with a man in the same manner as sex with women. Generally interpreted as male\u00a0<a title=\"Homosexuality\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Homosexuality\">homosexuality<\/a>. The girls seem to get a free&#8230; errrr &#8230;ride on this one. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_18:22\">Leviticus 18:22<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Marrying a woman and her daughter. They are all burnt to death (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:14\">Leviticus 20:14<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>A couple of these demand that the &#8220;sinners&#8221; be burned to death rather than stoned \u2014 which was the more usual form of capital punishment. One can wonder why these crimes in particular merit this especially horrible fate.<\/p>\n<h2>Religious laws<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Worshiping idols (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Exodus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Exodus#Exodus_22:20\">Exodus 22:20<\/a>,\u00a0<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:1\">Leviticus 20:1<\/a>-5,\u00a0<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_17:2\">Deuteronomy 17:2<\/a>-7).<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Blasphemy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Blasphemy\">Blasphemy<\/a>\u00a0(<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_24:14\">Leviticus 24:14<\/a>-16,23).<\/li>\n<li>Breaking the Sabbath (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Exodus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Exodus#Exodus_31:14\">Exodus 31:14<\/a>,\u00a0<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Numbers\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Numbers#Numbers_15:32\">Numbers 15:32<\/a>-36).<\/li>\n<li>Practicing\u00a0<a title=\"Magic\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Magic\">magic<\/a>\u00a0(<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Exodus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Exodus#Exodus_22:18\">Exodus 22:18<\/a>).<\/li>\n<li>Being a\u00a0<a title=\"Medium\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Medium\">medium<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0<a title=\"Spiritualism\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Spiritualism\">spiritualist<\/a>. (Stoning) (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:27\">Leviticus 20:27<\/a>).<\/li>\n<li>Trying to convert people to another religion. (stoning) (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_13:1\">Deuteronomy 13:1<\/a>-11,\u00a0<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_18:20\">Deuteronomy 18:20<\/a>).<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Apostasy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Apostasy\">Apostasy<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; If most people in a town come to believe in a different god. (Kill everybody, including animals, and burn the town.) (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_13:12\">Deuteronomy 13:12<\/a>-15)<sup><a href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Actions_punishable_by_death_in_the_Old_Testament#cite_note-5\">[6]<\/a><\/sup><\/li>\n<li>Giving one of your descents to Molech. Probably refers to\u00a0<a title=\"Human sacrifice\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Human_sacrifice\">human sacrifice<\/a>, which is not now as commonly practised. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:2\">Leviticus 20:2<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Non-priests going near the\u00a0<a title=\"wp:tabernacle\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/tabernacle\">tabernacle<\/a>\u00a0when it is being moved. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Numbers\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Numbers#Numbers_1:51\">Numbers 1:51<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Being a false prophet. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_13:5\">Deuteronomy 13:5<\/a>,\u00a0<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_18:20\">Deuteronomy 18:20<\/a>,\u00a0<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Zechariah\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Zechariah#Zechariah_13:2\">Zechariah 13:2<\/a>-3)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Parents and Children.<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Striking your parents (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Exodus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Exodus#Exodus_21:15\">Exodus 21:15<\/a>).<\/li>\n<li>Cursing your parents (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Exodus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Exodus#Exodus_21:17\">Exodus 21:17<\/a>,\u00a0<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:9\">Leviticus 20:9<\/a>).<\/li>\n<li>Being a stubborn and rebellious son. And being a profligate and a drunkard. (stoning) (Quite a few of us might have a problem with this one)(<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_21:18\">Deuteronomy 21:18<\/a>-21)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Violent and legal crimes<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Murder. However if a slave is beaten to death the owner is \u201cpunished\u201d \u2014 not necessarily killed. If the slave survives the beating then there is no punishment. This is part of a wide range of\u00a0<a title=\"Slavery in the Bible\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Slavery_in_the_Bible\">slavery laws in the Old and New Testament<\/a>. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Genesis\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Genesis#Genesis_9:6\">Genesis 9:6<\/a>,\u00a0<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Exodus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Exodus#Exodus_21:12\">Exodus 21:12<\/a>,\u00a0<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Numbers\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Numbers#Numbers_35:16\">Numbers 35:16<\/a>-21)<\/li>\n<li>Kidnapping and selling a man. This is really a law against making an\u00a0<em>Israelite<\/em>\u00a0a slave against his will, as other laws happily allow the &#8220;stealing of men&#8221; to make slaves. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Exodus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Exodus#Exodus_21:16\">Exodus 21:16<\/a>).<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Perjury\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Perjury\">Perjury<\/a>\u00a0(in certain cases) (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_19:15\">Deuteronomy 19:15<\/a>-21).<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_19:20\">Deuteronomy 19:20<\/a>\u00a0explicitly identifies that the purpose of this is deterrence. &#8220;The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing (malicious and false testimony by one man against another) be done among you.&#8221; Presumably all the other death penalties are assumed to be for deterrence as well.<\/li>\n<li>Ignoring the verdict of a judge \u2013 (or a priest!) (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_17:8\">Deuteronomy 17:8<\/a>-13).<\/li>\n<li>Not penning up a known dangerous bull, if the bull subsequently kills a man or a woman. Both the animal and the reckless owner of the dangerous bull are to be put to death. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Exodus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Exodus#Exodus_21:29\">Exodus 21:29<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Things that don\u2019t go anywhere else.<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Living in a city that failed to surrender to the Israelites. (Kill all the men, make the women and children slaves.) (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Deuteronomy\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Deuteronomy#Deuteronomy_20:12\">Deuteronomy 20:12<\/a>-14)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Possible grounds for execution.<\/h2>\n<p>The following carry the punishment of being &#8220;cut off from his people&#8221;. Some people seem to feel that this is the same as the death penalty, although the ancient Israelites may simply have interpreted it as exile.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>A male who is not circumcised. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Genesis\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Genesis#Genesis_17:14\">Genesis 17:14<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Exodus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Exodus#Exodus_12:15\">Exodus 12:15<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Manufacturing anointing oil. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Exodus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Exodus#Exodus_30:33\">Exodus 30:33<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Engaging in ritual animal sacrifices other than at the temple. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_17:1\">Leviticus 17:1<\/a>-9)<\/li>\n<li>Sexual activity with a woman who is\u00a0<a title=\"Menstruation\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Menstruation\">menstruating<\/a>: (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_20:18\">Leviticus 20:18<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Consuming blood: This would presumably include eating rare meat and black pudding. Also see above. (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_17:10\">Leviticus 17:10<\/a>).<\/li>\n<li>Eating peace offerings while ritually unclean: (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_7:20\">Leviticus 7:20<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Waiting too long before consuming sacrifices: (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Leviticus\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Leviticus#Leviticus_19:5\">Leviticus 19:5<\/a>-8)<\/li>\n<li>Going to the temple in an unclean state: (<a title=\"RationalWiki:Annotated Bible\/Numbers\" href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible\/Numbers#Numbers_19:13\">Numbers 19:13<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>WARNING. Watch this video will disturb you. It is horrific. But I ask that you do so, Christian, Muslim, atheist or other. You will never watch it again, and it will scar you. But remember, this activity was divinely decreed by an all-loving God. Yes, all-loving. And for what? For all of the actions below.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,9,14],"tags":[504,140,393,503],"class_list":["post-1900","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-biblical-exegesis","category-gods-characteristics","category-morality","tag-capital-punishment","tag-old-testament","tag-omnibenevolence","tag-stoning"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1900","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1900"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1900\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1900"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1900"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/tippling\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1900"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}