{"id":1186,"date":"2013-01-12T19:18:12","date_gmt":"2013-01-13T03:18:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/skepticallyleft\/?p=1186"},"modified":"2013-01-12T19:40:41","modified_gmt":"2013-01-13T03:40:41","slug":"bullied-or-cajoled-aka-have-you-stopped-beating-your-wife-lately","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/skepticallyleft\/2013\/01\/12\/bullied-or-cajoled-aka-have-you-stopped-beating-your-wife-lately\/","title":{"rendered":"Bullied or cajoled? AKA Have you stopped beating your wife lately?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In one of his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=cKKQdJR7F_I\">recent videos<\/a>, Thunderfoot makes the accusation that skeptic and atheist leaders were &#8220;bullied or cajoled&#8221; into speaking out against hatred against women (at the request of Skepchick Amy Roth). He was then rhetorically asked to explain what that language meant in a recent <a href=\"http:\/\/bigthink.com\/daylight-atheism\/petition-support-feminism-and-diversity-in-the-secular-community\">Petition<\/a> to oust him from the community and to add modern feminism, with all its unscientific and neo-puritan trappings, to the programming and conduct of skeptic, atheist and secular conferences. For shame. This is yet another example of organized, all-dissent-shall-be-silenced, bullying.<\/p>\n<p>Think of yourself in the place of a leader who gets such a Petition. If you refuse, you&#8217;re clearly a woman hater (since in those situations, feminism is said to be nothing more than equality between the sexes &#8212; a far cry what modern feminism teaches today). And who&#8217;s opposed to equality of the sexes\/genders\/races\/and people of different sexual preferences, and a more inclusive environment for all? No one, as far as I know. Still, if you say nothing, it appears that you don&#8217;t care about women. And if you do agree to sign, then you&#8217;ve been trapped into supporting feminism, an amorphous and shape-shifting beast which is frequently anti-science (due to the bias those allegedly awful white males have been constantly injecting into the field), and you&#8217;ve betrayed the fundamental principles of the pro-science movement. I don&#8217;t envy the position that the recipients of such petitions find themselves in. While speaking out against hatred toward women is a good and noble idea, this is a trap, and we all know it. The leaders are stuck in a no-win situation, and that&#8217;s exactly what &#8220;bullied or cajoled&#8221; means.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s been eye-opening to see how modern feminism works up close. Is this the case in all communities, or is ours an exception?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In one of his recent videos, Thunderfoot makes the accusation that skeptic and atheist leaders were &#8220;bullied or cajoled&#8221; into speaking out against hatred against women (at the request of Skepchick Amy Roth). He was then rhetorically asked to explain what that language meant in a recent Petition to oust him from the community and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,8,20],"tags":[362,367,365,46,364,363,307,366],"class_list":["post-1186","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atheism","category-feminism","category-skepticism","tag-adam-lee","tag-ambiguous-definitions","tag-bullied-or-cajoled","tag-bullying","tag-daylight-atheism","tag-petitions","tag-stephanie-zvan","tag-thuderfoot"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/skepticallyleft\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1186","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/skepticallyleft\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/skepticallyleft\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/skepticallyleft\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/skepticallyleft\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1186"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/skepticallyleft\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1186\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/skepticallyleft\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1186"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/skepticallyleft\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1186"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/skepticallyleft\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1186"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}