{"id":1532,"date":"2016-04-13T22:36:09","date_gmt":"2016-04-13T22:36:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/?p=1532"},"modified":"2016-04-13T22:37:54","modified_gmt":"2016-04-13T22:37:54","slug":"1532","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/2016\/04\/13\/1532\/","title":{"rendered":"Are Islamophobes just Racists?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Another excerpt from the Anti-Islam F.A.Q.:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>***********************************************************************************************<\/p>\n<p><strong>0.3 \u00a0This is just another form of white xenophobia or racism. \u00a0&#8216;Islam isn&#8217;t a race&#8217; is just a dodge &#8211; this is in line with prejudice against immigrants, blacks &#8211; dark skinned people in general. \u00a0Your views are just racism recast, and we should dismiss them as such.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Please take a look at <a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/2014\/03\/31\/the-anti-racialist-q-a\/\">this for starters<\/a>, and then read <a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/2014\/03\/21\/how-to-argue-like-stalin\/\">this<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>What difference would it make if I <em>was<\/em> a racist? \u00a0It simply means that a racist is right and you are wrong. \u00a0Moreover, let&#8217;s say that I am a racist and a bigot and this is all an elaborate con. \u00a0Doesn&#8217;t that make you morally obliged to take this seriously, to read through it and offer a comprehensive refutation? \u00a0If you just dismiss this, won&#8217;t you be letting other people get conned by me?<\/p>\n<p>However, please reread that first link\u00a0and then look at this:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1388\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1388\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Islamophobes1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1388\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Islamophobes1-300x266.jpg\" alt=\"Islamophobes: the world's most diverse bigots\" width=\"300\" height=\"266\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Islamophobes1-300x266.jpg 300w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Islamophobes1.jpg 614w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1388\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Islamophobes: the world&#8217;s most diverse bigots<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>To take that from the top, left to right, row by row, these are: <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sabatina_James\">Sabatina James<\/a>, Austrian Pakistani convert to Christianity and women&#8217;s rights activist; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali\">Ayaan Hirsi Ali<\/a>, Somali Islamic apostate and atheist, women&#8217;s rights activist; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wZVNYH5aR9E\">Yaron Brook<\/a>, Israeli-American head of the Ayn Rand Institute; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Narendra_Modi\">Narendra Mod<\/a>i, Indian Prime Minister; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ashin_Wirathu\">Ashin Wirathu<\/a>, Burmese Buddhist and leader of the 969 movement; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bruce_Bawer#While_Europe_Slept\">Bruce Bawer<\/a>, gay American writer\u00a0living in the Netherlands; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newenglishreview.org\/Ibn_Warraq\/Islam,_Middle_East_and_Fascism\/\">Ibn Warraq<\/a>, Islamic apostate scholar; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Guillaume_Faye\">Guillaume Faye<\/a>, French neo-fascist; <a href=\"www.jihadwatch.org\/\">Robert Spencer<\/a>, American Catholic conservative; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Maryam_Namazie#Politics\">Maryam Namazie<\/a>, Iranian communist; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Oriana_Fallaci#The_resistance_movement\">Oriana Fallaci<\/a>, Italian journalist and anti-fascist resistance fighter; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pim_Fortuyn\">Pim Fortuyn<\/a>, former communist party member, and life-long social democrat, as well as supporter of gay rights; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Brigitte_Gabriel#Personal_account_of_early_life\">Brigitte Gabriel<\/a>, Maronite Christian Lebanese; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.co.uk\/tun-khin\/aung-san-suu-kyi-rohinga-muslims_b_4192319.html\">Aung San Suu Kyi<\/a>, Burmese opposition politician; <a href=\"http:\/\/fullcomment.nationalpost.com\/2013\/09\/06\/mark-steyn-blunt-words-about-muslim-backwardness\/\">Richard Dawkins<\/a>, British atheist intellectual and evolutionary biologist;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.samharris.org\/site\/full_text\/the-reality-of-islam\"> Sam Harris<\/a>, American leftist atheist; <a href=\"http:\/\/shoebat.com\/\">Walid Shoebat<\/a>, former PLO terrorist and fundamentalist Christian convert; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jpost.com\/International\/West-doesnt-understand-reality-of-Islamic-ideology-says-pastor-381416\">Umar Malinde<\/a>, Ugandan Christian convert; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newenglishreview.org\/DL_Adams\/The_White_Rose%3A_An_Interview_with_Mrs._Susanne_Zeller-_Hirzel\/\">Suzanne Zeller-Hirze<\/a>l, last survivor of the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/White_Rose\">White Rose<\/a>, the anti-Nazi resistance in Germany; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zakaria_Botros\">Zakaria Bostros<\/a>, Coptic priest; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.co.uk\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=video&amp;cd=7&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=0CDgQtwIwBg&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dp9i7fRy26V4&amp;ei=6LppVP6YK47WauG9gMgD&amp;usg=AFQjCNFPny9Cz9GvlIp-OFQ_N4F_51_1bg&amp;sig2=MpRZgW34GcsxhtRb122Emw&amp;bvm=bv.79142246,d.ZWU\">Bill Maher<\/a>, US lefty comedian; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2001\/oct\/04\/afghanistan.terrorism9\">V.S. Naipau<\/a>l, Trinidadian writer and winner of the Nobel prize.<\/p>\n<p>Now as you may have noticed, this is about as a diverse group as you can imagine. \u00a0There is exactly one thing that unites this group, which is that they all have taken a close look at Islam and concluded that it is a menace.<\/p>\n<p>Take Islam out of the equation and just note down the number of people you&#8217;d think were broadly on &#8216;your team&#8217; &#8211; your political\/philosophical worldview. You don&#8217;t have to agree with all of them, or even most of them &#8211; but the miniscule chances of you not aligning\u00a0with\u00a0<em>any<\/em> of them, should make you ask: how is it that a group of people with exactly nothing else in common tend to converge on the same view of Islam? \u00a0 Doesn&#8217;t that suggest that we might have stumbled across something valid?<\/p>\n<p>But if insist on this argument that loathing of Islam is some sort of irrational bigotry, to be lumped in with racism, well, that&#8217;s very convenient. \u00a0A certain fraction does exist\u00a0that use hostility to Islam as a way of being generally xenophobic. \u00a0However, before you get smug, let&#8217;s take a look at the other side of the coin &#8211; what sort of people tend to like Islam, defend it? \u00a0Well, people like this guy:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1386\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1386\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Himmler.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1386 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Himmler.jpg\" alt=\"Heinrich Himmler, under whose guidance the Handschar SS was formed\" width=\"597\" height=\"285\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Himmler.jpg 597w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Himmler-300x143.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 597px) 100vw, 597px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1386\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Heinrich Himmler, under whose guidance the Handschar SS was formed<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>And this guy:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1423\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1423\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/GotlobBerger.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1423\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/GotlobBerger.jpg\" alt=\"Gotlob Berger, mastermind of the Waffen-SS, and responsible for the death-marches\" width=\"597\" height=\"285\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/GotlobBerger.jpg 597w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/GotlobBerger-300x143.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 597px) 100vw, 597px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1423\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gottlob_Berger\">Gotlob Berger<\/a>, mastermind of the Waffen-SS, and responsible for the death-marches<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>And of course, this guy:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Hitler1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1424\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Hitler1.jpg\" alt=\"Hitler\" width=\"597\" height=\"285\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Hitler1.jpg 597w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Hitler1-300x143.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 597px) 100vw, 597px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Cheap shot? \u00a0Try the following further details:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>9\/11 was excused and defended by Horst Mahler, one of Germany&#8217;s leading neo-Nazis<\/li>\n<li>In America, the leader of the National Alliance &#8211; another white supremacist movement &#8211; praised bin Laden as a hero<\/li>\n<li>The 2008 Cologne protest against the proposed Mosque<a href=\"http:\/\/www.hamburg.de\/innenbehoerde\/schlagzeilen\/615734\/neonazis-verteidigen-islam\/\"> faced a counter-protest by German neo-Nazis who were opposed to &#8216;Islamophobia&#8217;.<\/a><\/li>\n<li>There&#8217;s been a steady trickle of<a href=\"http:\/\/revert2islamtoday.blogspot.co.uk\/2013\/04\/marc-springer-former-neo-nazi-skin-head.html\"> neo-Nazi converts to Islam<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Alois Brunner fled to Syria and helped build its secret services<\/li>\n<li>Of course, there&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.algemeiner.com\/2012\/03\/27\/jews-vilified-by-bosnian-muslim-neo-nazi-group\/\">neo-Nazis who\u00a0<em>are<\/em> Muslims<\/a><\/li>\n<li>&#8216;Pro-palestinian&#8217; groups find it fine to go <a href=\"http:\/\/mystical-politics.blogspot.co.uk\/2014\/05\/more-from-sjp-vassar-it-is-alright-to.html\">along with white supremacists,<\/a> for their views on Jews<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And so on. \u00a0In their loathing of the liberal, American-Jewish world order, they sound a lot like both Islam&#8217;s fanatics and the Islamophile defenders on the political left.<\/p>\n<p>So when someone like Ben Afleck says that criticising Islam is like saying &#8216;you shifty jew&#8217;, it is entirely appropriate to respond that, on the contrary,\u00a0<em>he<\/em> is recycling the talking points of the most hardened white-supremacists and neo-Nazis.<\/p>\n<p>Still think it&#8217;s a cheap shot? \u00a0Well, then think twice before you attribute hatred of Islam to some sort of racist bigotry.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>***********************************************************************************************<\/p>\n<p>Close excerpt.<\/p>\n<p>We now can add another member to the pantheon of Islamophobes:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2016\/04\/Trevor-Phillips.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1533\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1533\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2016\/04\/Trevor-Phillips-300x203.jpg\" alt=\"Trevor-Phillips\" width=\"300\" height=\"203\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2016\/04\/Trevor-Phillips-300x203.jpg 300w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2016\/04\/Trevor-Phillips.jpg 455w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s Trevor Phillips, former head of the British and Equality Human Rights commission, <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.spectator.co.uk\/2016\/04\/trevor-phillips-is-finally-discovering-the-pitfalls-of-the-term-islamophobia\/\">who now admits that<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2018Britain desperately wants to think of its Muslims as versions of the Great British Bake Off winner Nadiya Hussain, or the cheeky-chappie athlete Mo Farah. But thanks to the most detailed and comprehensive survey of British Muslim opinion yet conducted, we now know that just isn\u2019t how it is.<span class=\"s3\">\u2019<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In other words, Mr Phillips is admitting the truth I documented <a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/2016\/04\/09\/dougsandersporkies\/\">rather extensively in my previous post:<\/a> that Muslims \u00a0in huge numbers refuse the most basic requirements of liberal society.<\/p>\n<p>And Phillips is the man who introduced and promoted the term &#8220;Islamophobia&#8221; twenty years ago.<\/p>\n<p>(If I&#8217;d introduced this as a twist in fiction, I&#8217;d be howled down as too obvious).<\/p>\n<p>Now, I don&#8217;t blame him for thinking &#8211; back in 1997! &#8211; that Muslims were just like any other immigrant population. \u00a0I thought so then. \u00a0This was before 9\/11, before the Mohammed riots, before 7\/7, before the orgy of evidence to the contrary. \u00a0I can understand people still wanting to believe that now.<\/p>\n<p>What I can&#8217;t forgive, though, is the automatic, reflexive smearing of anyone speaking up against Islam as a racist, know-nothing bigot. \u00a0Sorry &#8211; reread this and look hard upon those faces, of the Islamophobes and Islamophiles. \u00a0That charge just won&#8217;t wash anymore.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Another excerpt from the Anti-Islam F.A.Q.: &nbsp; *********************************************************************************************** 0.3 \u00a0This is just another form of white xenophobia or racism. \u00a0&#8216;Islam&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":22,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22,25,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1532","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-islam","category-race-and-racism","category-the-enlightenment-continues"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1532","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/22"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1532"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1532\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1532"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1532"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1532"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}