{"id":1528,"date":"2016-04-09T05:14:46","date_gmt":"2016-04-09T05:14:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/?p=1528"},"modified":"2016-04-13T22:43:17","modified_gmt":"2016-04-13T22:43:17","slug":"dougsandersporkies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/2016\/04\/09\/dougsandersporkies\/","title":{"rendered":"Doug Saunders is telling porkies"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[EDIT: Formatting fixed on the long excerpts]<\/p>\n<p>So I take a few months off to deal with personal and business matters &#8211; and somehow, in that time, it&#8217;s been decided to throw the doors open and let my home be invaded and overrun. \u00a0So we have bombs going off in the EU&#8217;s capital, and mass sexual assault on the streets of my fatherland, and, naturally, the usual crowd is storming off to defend Islam.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll write a more in depth post on this, but for the moment I&#8217;m going to focus on a skirmish on the struggle to restore sanity. \u00a0Mark Steyn and Nigel Farage were at something called the &#8220;Munk Debate&#8221;, squaring off against Simon Schama and Ann Arbour. \u00a0As both Schama and Arbour are feminists they, naturally, mocked concern about sexual assault as either fake (Arbour) or a product of sexual frustration on the part of Steyn and Farage (Schama). \u00a0Steyn <a href=\"http:\/\/news.nationalpost.com\/full-comment\/barbara-kay-when-mark-steyn-struck-back\">struck back with some vim<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Munk debate: Mark Steyn vs Simon Schama\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-zHoDANH-R8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cMme Arbour scoffs at the \u2018newfound feminists.\u2019 I\u2019m not much of a feminist, but I draw the line at a three year old \u2026 and a seven year old getting raped.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In the follow up to this on Twitter, one Doug Saunders weighed in with a long sneer:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">@AlienPsyTing A very large part of his debate argument involved retailing urban myths involving refugees and rape etc<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Doug Saunders (@DougSaunders) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DougSaunders\/status\/716731529527824384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 3, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m German. \u00a0I read the German newspapers. \u00a0And I assure you, those are not &#8220;urban myths&#8221; to Germany&#8217;s media, to its people, to its police, even if two of those are under pressure to hush things up.<\/p>\n<p>I know this guy. \u00a0I&#8217;ve got a very long &#8220;Anti-Islam F.A.Q.&#8221; on the way. \u00a0To write it I engaged with Saunders&#8217; book, &#8220;The Myth of the Muslim Tide&#8221;, because you should read the best arguments against your own position. \u00a0Here&#8217;s an excerpt:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>***********************************************************************************************<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>1.9 That\u2019s just Muslims in the Rest. \u00a0In the West, Muslims quickly adopt the same liberal worldview as Westerners. \u00a0What you are seeing is cultural, not Islamic.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>At the start of this, I referred to Doug Saunders\u2019 book as surprisingly dishonest, and this is the reason. \u00a0In his book he makes a lot of hay with studies showing that, e.g., such-and-such a percentage of Muslims in this or that European country only rarely go to the Mosque. \u00a0He doesn\u2019t address questions like this one, the extremely widespread support for things like killing apostates, and I think I can guess why: it is an unarguable threat to a liberal state, and it isn\u2019t one that can be simply hand-waved. \u00a0 According to the\u00a0<em>Policy Exchange<\/em> study,<a href=\"http:\/\/www.policyexchange.org.uk\/images\/publications\/living%20apart%20together%20-%20jan%2007.pdf\"> thirty-one percent of British Muslims support murdering apostates<\/a>. \u00a0Furthermore, <a href=\"http:\/\/ukpollingreport.co.uk\/blog\/archives\/291\">a majority of British Muslims (78%) want to see the Danish cartoonists prosecuted and 68% say that those who insult Islam should be prosecuted<\/a>. \u00a0This means that a clear majority of British Muslims are opposed to the most fundamental rights of a free society.<\/p>\n<p>Saunders blithely states that:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The facts are unambiguous here. \u00a0Across the Western World support for violence and terrorism among Muslims are no higher than that of the general population, and in some cases it is lower.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is flat out false. \u00a0Just to completely underline this, take a look at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetimes.co.uk\/tto\/news\/uk\/article4253271.ece\">this<\/a>. \u00a0One in seven \u2018young Britons\u2019 likes ISIS. \u00a0I think that not even the most depraved lefty (okay, yes, maybe<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=WKAEomhMUns\"> the most depraved lefty<\/a>) \u00a0or conservative likes ISIS, so this is probably restricted to young British Muslims . \u00a0That means up to\u00a0<em>eighty percent<\/em> of young British Muslims are sympathetic to a group so evil, al-Qaeda kicked it out.<\/p>\n<p>Isolated incident? \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.newsweek.com\/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795?piano_t=1\">How <\/a>about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vox.com\/2014\/8\/26\/6067123\/isis-poll\">this poll<\/a>?<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1425\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/7347-presscdn-0-17.pagely.netdna-cdn.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Screen_Shot_2014-08-25_at_4.16.57_PM.0.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1425\" src=\"http:\/\/7347-presscdn-0-17.pagely.netdna-cdn.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Screen_Shot_2014-08-25_at_4.16.57_PM.0-300x147.png\" alt=\"Support for ISIS across Europe\" width=\"300\" height=\"147\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Screen_Shot_2014-08-25_at_4.16.57_PM.0-300x147.png 300w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Screen_Shot_2014-08-25_at_4.16.57_PM.0.png 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Support for ISIS across Europe<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Once again, this isn\u2019t a survey of\u00a0<em>Muslim<\/em> opinions, but of \u2018Germans\u2019, \u2018French\u2019 etc. \u00a0You make the adjustment and you find that the Islamic State has a\u00a0<em>majority support<\/em> by European Muslims. \u00a0In other words, a straight reading of this means huge numbers of European Muslims are in favour of this:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1426\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/7347-presscdn-0-17.pagely.netdna-cdn.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/women-abducted-by-the-islamic-state-feared-trapped-in-sexual-slavery-1410376595.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1426\" src=\"http:\/\/7347-presscdn-0-17.pagely.netdna-cdn.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/women-abducted-by-the-islamic-state-feared-trapped-in-sexual-slavery-1410376595-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"Slaves being sold by the Islamic State\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/women-abducted-by-the-islamic-state-feared-trapped-in-sexual-slavery-1410376595-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/women-abducted-by-the-islamic-state-feared-trapped-in-sexual-slavery-1410376595.jpg 700w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Slaves being sold by the Islamic State<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>For the record, I think this has to be out of whack somehow, the business of polling being what it is. \u00a0But it does reveal a large support for the worst crimes, as long as infidels are the victims. \u00a0Here\u2019s a study of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dutchnews.nl\/news\/archives\/2014\/11\/young-dutch-turks-radical-views-worry-mps-call-for-more-research.php\/\">young dutch Turks<\/a>: while only 8% support the idea of a Caliphate, 80% are down with jihad against infidels,<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s another poll result \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dagelijksestandaard.nl\/2013\/05\/nl-moslims-massaal-achter-jihad-syri\">72% of Dutch Muslims say fighting in the Syria jihad is defensible<\/a>. \u00a0Here\u2019s another one:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/7347-presscdn-0-17.pagely.netdna-cdn.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Opinions2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1422\" src=\"http:\/\/7347-presscdn-0-17.pagely.netdna-cdn.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Opinions2-300x219.jpg\" alt=\"Opinions2\" width=\"300\" height=\"219\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Opinions2-300x219.jpg 300w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Opinions2.jpg 591w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1421\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/7347-presscdn-0-17.pagely.netdna-cdn.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Opinions1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1421\" src=\"http:\/\/7347-presscdn-0-17.pagely.netdna-cdn.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Opinions1-300x213.jpg\" alt=\"Muslim and Christian attitudes\" width=\"300\" height=\"213\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Opinions1-300x213.jpg 300w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/files\/2014\/11\/Opinions1.jpg 592w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Muslim and Christian attitudes<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This is from a widespread study of attitudes of Muslims and Christians in Europe. \u00a0The pink bars indicate Muslim opinions. \u00a0So from this we f ind that 58% of Muslims in Europe want a return to fundamentalism compared with 20% of Christians, 65% say that religious law is more important than secular compared with 12% of Christians, 58% do not want any homosexual friends compared with about 11% for Christians, 45% say they can\u2019t trust Jews, compared with 8% for Christians \u2013 and so on. And so on.<\/p>\n<p>But forget the polls for a second and just think about how Muslim communities in Europe actually act. \u00a0List to the recordings from <em>Undercover Mosque<\/em> of Imam\u2019s calling for the death of Jews and Hindus. \u00a0A simple test would be the following. \u00a0Try launching, in a moderately well read newspaper, a competition for whoever can produce the best cartoon making fun of Islam\u2019s Prophet. \u00a0You know what will happen, and you know that murderous, hateful frenzy that you\u2019ll see. \u00a0You also know that\u00a0<em>nothing<\/em> comparable is ever elicited by the slaughters of ISIS,<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishworldreview.com\/0802\/steyn1.asp\"> the Islamic rapes <\/a>etc.<\/p>\n<p>So how on earth can Saunders possibly claim that Muslims in Europe are not supporters of totalitarianism? \u00a0In part, it\u2019s to do with polls that stress generalities that are misleading. \u00a0For example, he cheers the fact that Muslims in North America say they are \u201cMuslims first, Americans second\u201d in a somewhat similar percentage as Christians say they are \u201cChristians first, Americans second.\u201d \u00a0But that misses the fact that Islam does not recognize any division between religion and state, while Christianity more or less invented the concept of secularism. \u00a0He also makes much of a poll finding saying that Muslims in Europe have the same level, very low, level of support for attacks on civilians, a level of support he pegs at 1-2%.<\/p>\n<p>But how can that coexist with the previous results showing support for ISIS? \u00a0How does it gel with the finding that 6% of French Muslims say that terrorism against civilian targets is <a href=\"http:\/\/pewresearch.org\/files\/old-assets\/pdf\/muslim-americans.pdf#page=97\">\u2018often justified\u2019 and a further 10% say it is \u2018sometimes justified\u2019?<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a thought: Saunders says that he doesn\u2019t care what Islamic doctrine is, he isn\u2019t interested in theology, Islam is whatever Muslims say it is. \u00a0He should have been more careful. \u00a0Having done any serious study of Islamic doctrine, he\u2019d have come across the idea of the\u00a0<em>kafir<\/em>, the infidel. \u00a0Islam divides the world sharply into Muslims and\u00a0\u00a0<em>kafir<\/em>, and it regards us\u00a0\u00a0<em>kafir<\/em>\u00a0as sub-human. \u00a0<strong>So what is more likely is that Muslims are opposed to violence when it is directed against Muslim civilians, and in favour of it when it is directed against infidel civilians.<\/strong> \u00a0Similarly, Saunders makes much of the low support for the death penalty amongst European Muslims: I have no doubt they are against the death penalty for Islamic jihadists, and this coexists with the large number that want to see apostates killed.<\/p>\n<p>I also have to add that part of the reason that Saunders can argue this way is that he\u2019s not being entirely straight with the facts and figures. \u00a0I offer a small but salient example. \u00a0On page 66 of his book he writes,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Muslims in Germany have become even more tolerant of homosexuality, with 47% of German Muslims (versus 68% of Germans in general) finding it morally acceptable, according to a large-scale Gallup survey.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>You can find that Gallup poll\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.olir.it\/areetematiche\/pagine\/documents\/News_2150_Gallup2009.pdf\">here<\/a>. \u00a0The actual finding is in figure 32, which reports that 68% of the general German public finds homosexuality morally acceptable, while only\u00a019% of German Muslims do. \u00a0It\u2019s also hard to credit that Saunders doesn\u2019t know about all these other poll results that don\u2019t fit with his picture of a happily integrating Muslims community that is no different from other immigrant communities.<\/p>\n<p>However all of this still misses the basic argument about the different circles back in\u00a0<strong>1.2<\/strong>. \u00a0The claim isn\u2019t that clear majorities of Muslims in the West want to reduce us to the level of Islamic theocracy. \u00a0<strong>The claim is that significant numbers \u2013 double digit percentages \u2013 of Muslims are in favour of Islamic totalitarianism and the remaining Muslim community does next to nothing to stop them, and just whines whenever Infidels speak up against this. \u00a0<\/strong>The lunatics are running the show in the Ummah. I\u2019m German and trust me: thanks to the Islamophiles I cited at the start of this piece, we know perfectly well how easy a bunch of crazies can end up running the show. The Nazis only ever got 33% of the 1933 vote.<\/p>\n<p>That the nutters are running the show isn\u2019t that surprising. \u00a0You know from personal experience how difficult it is can be to take a stand against bullies even in the workplace. \u00a0Imagine what it is like trying to do it when it can get you ostracized or killed, and your holy book is saying the bullies are right. I\u2019m very happy to find out that 35% of French Muslims are fine with homosexuality (and hope this isn\u2019t <em>taqqiya<\/em>), or that 38% of French Muslims apparently support a ban on the hijab in public places (Saunders cites<a href=\"http:\/\/www.brookings.edu\/research\/books\/2006\/integratingislam\"> the following book that I don\u2019t have <\/a>\u2013 if anyone can send me a scanned copy of that result, that\u2019d be great). \u00a0Those are hopeful statistics, for reasons I\u2019ll explain in the final section. \u00a0However, we can\u2019t get away from the fact that at the moment the lunatics are in the driving seat in the Ummah.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1.10 \u00a0What about the fact that so many Western Muslims seem fine with drinking, premaritial sex etc.?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The high level of support for abortion, premarital sex and pornography are striking. \u00a0Yet, I\u2019m sorry to say, that doesn\u2019t fill me with any sort of hope. \u00a0Pre-maritial sex, abortion etc. are self-indulgent things. \u00a0Notice that when you ask the question about homosexuality, which requires acceptance and tolerance of the other, the poll numbers drop substantially. \u00a0During his travels through Pakistan, Naipaul noted that the place was lousy with<a href=\"http:\/\/wikiislam.net\/wiki\/Muslim_Statistics_-_Pornography#Pakistan\"> pornography, including child pornography<\/a>\u00a0\u2013 and more troubling from an Islamic perspective, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.motherjones.com\/mixed-media\/2013\/06\/gay-porn-pakistan\">gay porn<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>If Muslims are willing to compromise their faith when it comes to their own self-indulgence, it does not follow that they are willing to compromise it when it comes to tolerating infidels and respecting human rights. \u00a0Indeed, it is perfectly possible that they will react with far\u00a0<em>greater\u00a0<\/em>fanaticism in West than in Islamic lands, out of overcompensation.<\/p>\n<p>Samuel Huntington wrote about Islam\u2019s bloody borders. \u00a0Where Islam touches the infidel world, it typically becomes much more fanatical and violent. The fanaticism is a response to the fear of contamination \u2013 it\u2019s how Islam has managed to maintain its cultural autarky for so long. \u00a0Saunders pretty much admits this \u2013 on page 108 he cites a study of all the Muslims in Britain charged with terrorist offences that found that<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>77% of them came from neighbourhoods where less than 11% of the polulation was Muslim and more than half (56%) came from neighbourhoods with less than 6% Muslims.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Here\u2019s a line from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vanityfair.com\/politics\/features\/2007\/07\/hitchens200707#\">late Christopher Hitchen<\/a>s:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Mongia Souaihi cheerfully explained to me the many reasons why the veil is not authorized by the Koran and why she is in danger for drawing this conclusion in print. \u201cThe fundamentalists from overseas have declared me to be kuffar\u2014an unbeliever.\u201d This I know to be dangerous, because a Muslim who has once been declared to be an apostate is also a person who can be sentenced to death. \u201cWhich fundamentalists? And from where overseas?\u201d \u201cRachid Ghannouchi, from London.\u201d Oh no, not again. If you saw my \u201cLondonistan\u201d essay, in the June\u00a0Vanity Fair, you will know that fanatics who are unwelcome in Africa and Arabia are allowed an astonishing freedom in the United Kingdom.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Saunders points out that terrorists often appear less pious \u2013 taking drugs, going to prostitutes, drinking etc. \u00a0That makes the opposite point that Saunders thinks he\u2019s making. \u00a0This is why it\u2019s a good idea to have some knowledge of religious doctrine if you are going to discuss it. \u00a0It\u2019s applying Western standards of piety to where they have no place. \u00a0In Islam, there is no \u2018salvation\u2019 the way there is in Christianity \u2013 all deeds and words are supposedly weighed at the end, deciding whether you go to heaven or hell.<\/p>\n<p>With one exception. \u00a0The <i>shahid\u00a0<\/i>who dies in Allah\u2019s jihad is guaranteed a place in paradise (Bukhari, 1206). \u00a0So it\u2019s not surprising to see a combination of personal indulgence with fanatical intolerance and violence. \u00a0Moreover, Saunders notes that two-thirds of British jihadists have criminal records, and many were radicalized in jail. \u00a0That\u2019s to be expected. \u00a0Any Muslim who wants to rob and rape infidels has absolute authority to do so according to the strictures of the Koran and the example Mohammed who personally lead\u00a0<em>razzias<\/em>\u00a0for booty. It\u2019s the perfect pitch \u2013 you go to some hapless sod of a shoplifter in jail, tell him that he\u2019s justified to feel angry and resentful, that he had every right to rob, as long as he gets with the jihadist program.<\/p>\n<p>***********************************************************************************************<\/p>\n<p>From my introduction to the F.A.Q.:<\/p>\n<p>***********************************************************************************************<\/p>\n<p><strong>0.2 \u00a0On the denial of bigotry and oppression<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This is the second F.A.Q. style post I have done. \u00a0The previous one was<a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/2014\/03\/31\/the-anti-racialist-q-a\/\"> on racialism<\/a>, and one thing I learned about was denial. \u00a0I had a tussle with the blogger\u00a0<em>Radish<\/em> about <a href=\"http:\/\/radishmag.wordpress.com\/2013\/01\/25\/slavery-reconsidered\/\">his denial that slavery was that oppressive<\/a>, or the legacy of the deep South, in regards to its blacks, was that bad. \u00a0I was surprised to find how much denial there was; one comment I didn\u2019t have time to make hay with was from the writer Daniel Sanders\u2019:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[\u2026]nigger, a neutral term for non-whites tolerated, albeit sometimes roughly, in the Southland<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And he backed this up with a reference to the famous historian Louis:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As for Sambo, whose wrongs moved the abolitionists to wrath and tears, there is some reason to believe that he suffered less than any other class in the South from its \u201cpeculiar institution\u201d.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And who also said that the prospect of their children of becoming a house slave was coveted by blacks in the Confederacy, so much that whites were envious of this fate.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, that last bit is made up. \u00a0What I am in fact referring to is the writer Douglas Saunders\u2019 book\u00a0<em>The Myth of the Muslim Tide<\/em> in which he refers to:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>dhimmi, a term for non-Muslims tolerated, albeit sometimes roughly, in the Muslim world.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>***********************************************************************************************<\/p>\n<p>And I ended with:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>To take Saunders again, in his cavalier dismissal of the nature of\u00a0<em>dhimmitude\u00a0<\/em>he dismisses Bat Ye\u2019or\u2019s work \u2013 <em>I<strong>slam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide<\/strong><\/em><strong>,\u00a0<em>The Dhimmi: Jews and Christians Under Islam<\/em>, <\/strong>and\u00a0<strong><em>The Decline of Eastern Christianity: From Jihad to Dhimmitude<\/em>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>One reason these books are fascinating is their compendiums of\u00a0<em>primary source material<\/em>. \u00a0Eyewitness accounts and descriptions, from Muslims and Infidels, of the cruelty, degradation and slaughter dealt out to\u00a0<em>kafirs<\/em> living under Islam. <strong>\u00a0So Saunders is in the position of those racialists who tried to insist, against the evidence, <a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/prussian\/2014\/04\/27\/im-disappointed-in-the-neoreactionaries\/\">that blacks had it good in the Southland<\/a> \u2013 or David Irving claiming that the diary of Anne Frank is a hoax.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In the actual F.A.Q. I&#8217;m more generous to Saunders than I am being here, because of both his nasty imputation of the worst motives to his opponents, and his highly suspect and loudly trumpeted concern for &#8220;brown people&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>If Saunders could pay any attention, he would realise that brown people are among the victims of jihad &#8211; and far far more &#8220;brown people&#8221; are its victims, than white people. \u00a0I&#8217;m not like Farage and Steyn &#8211; I think they are way too moderate and conservative.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Re: my\u00a0<em>Anti-Racialist Q &amp; A, <\/em>Scott Alexander wrote:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><em>It\u2019s astounding because I have no idea what the author\u2019s political leanings are even though he seems to go through great trouble to explain them. One minute he will seem like a raging leftist, the next he will be talking about how racism [\u2026] keeps people of all skin colors from uniting in brotherhood against the real enemy, Muslims<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>By George, I think he\u2019s got it!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Internationalism is a mental readjustment. \u00a0It is common to hear complacent people in America saying things like \u201cwe haven\u2019t\u201d been attacked since 9\/11. \u00a0Well, no, actually, if you take the view of internationalism,\u00a0<em>we<\/em> have been attacked almost every single day since then. \u00a0When ISIS rounds up Yezidi slave women to sell,\u00a0<em>we\u00a0<\/em>are attacked. \u00a0When Al Shabab assaults Kenyan malls,\u00a0<em>we<\/em> are attacked. \u00a0When Boko Haram tries to erase the Christian South,\u00a0<em>we\u00a0<\/em>are attacked.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This isn&#8217;t &#8220;Islam vs the West&#8221;. \u00a0It is Islam vs Everything &#8211; including itself. \u00a0As you can see from the news in Syria and Iraq, when it has nothing left to destroy, it turns on itself. \u00a0This isn&#8217;t just a struggle to preserve the West &#8211; it&#8217;s a struggle for the future of the human race.<\/p>\n<p>So whether we are white Atheists, black Christians, brown Hindus, yellow Buddhists, or any of the hundred variations and combinations of Infidel &#8211; we&#8217;re all in this together. 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