{"id":71,"date":"2012-10-09T22:39:36","date_gmt":"2012-10-09T22:39:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/notung\/?p=71"},"modified":"2012-10-15T23:28:38","modified_gmt":"2012-10-15T23:28:38","slug":"free-speech-in-the-uk-two-absurd-convictions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/notung\/2012\/10\/09\/free-speech-in-the-uk-two-absurd-convictions\/","title":{"rendered":"Free Speech in the UK: Two Absurd Convictions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Here in the UK, the prosecutions for saying something distasteful seem to be getting more and more ridiculous. There were two just this week! Take <a title=\"April Jones: Matthew Woods jailed for Facebook posts\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/uk-england-lancashire-19869710\" target=\"_blank\">this one<\/a> for example:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A Lancashire man who posted offensive comments on Facebook about missing five-year-old April Jones has been jailed for 12 weeks.<\/p>\n<p>Matthew Woods, 20, made a number of derogatory posts about April and missing Madeline McCann.<\/p>\n<p>He appeared at Chorley Magistrates&#8217; Court where he admitted sending a grossly offensive public electronic communication.<\/p>\n<p>Woods, of Eaves Lane, Chorley, was handed the maximum sentence.<\/p>\n<p>Chairman of the bench, magistrate Bill Hudson, said his comments were so serious and &#8220;abhorrent&#8221; that he deserved the longest sentence they could pass, less a third to give credit for his early guilty plea.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Offensive comments on Facebook! This is the sort of thing that can now earn you a jail term in the UK. What&#8217;s interesting is that an angry mob of about 50 people descended upon his house, presumably to try to hurt him &#8211; yet <em>he&#8217;s<\/em> the one in jail! Fine, so saying something offensive on Facebook is illegal. So what about<a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/notung\/2012\/09\/18\/that-takes-religion\/\" target=\"_blank\"> my friend<\/a> who posted anti-semitic comments recently? Why is she not in jail too? Why is the pub quiz team I was up against a couple of weeks ago not also in jail? After all, their team name was a distasteful joke about Madeline McCann. I think I could provide an endless amount of examples.<\/p>\n<p>The <a title=\"Azhar Ahmed sentenced over Facebook soldier deaths slur\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/uk-england-leeds-19883828\" target=\"_blank\">other case<\/a>\u00a0was perhaps less absurd, and the &#8216;guilty&#8217; party managed to escape jail (but not state punishment):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A man who posted an offensive Facebook message following the deaths of six British soldiers has been given a community order.<\/p>\n<p>Azhar Ahmed, 20, of Fir Avenue, Ravensthorpe, West Yorkshire, was found guilty in September of sending a grossly offensive communication.<\/p>\n<p>He said he did not think the message, which said &#8220;all soldiers should die and go to hell&#8221;, was offensive.<\/p>\n<p>Ahmed was also fined \u00a3300 at Huddersfield Magistrates&#8217; Court.<\/p>\n<p>He will have to do 240 hours of community service over a two-year period.<\/p>\n<p>Ahmed was charged after the mother of one of the soldiers read the comments and was so upset she called the police.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes, it&#8217;s pretty nasty, but so what? It&#8217;s\u00a0<em>illegal<\/em> to be nasty and offensive? It seems that it is. Why are we not content with Facebook&#8217;s reporting system such that we need to get the police and the courts involved? This is a worrying trend away from free expression &#8211; I envy the US for its First Amendment.<\/p>\n<p>What do you think about these convictions and the corresponding sentences? Should we be free to say such things? What does this tell us about the UK&#8217;s commitment to free speech?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Update:<\/p>\n<p>Yet another case. \u00a0A <a title=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/uk-england-manchester-19911943\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/uk-england-manchester-19911943\" target=\"_blank\">four-month sentence for wearing an offensive t-shirt<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A man from Greater Manchester who wore a T-shirt daubed with offensive comments about the killing of two police officers has been jailed.<\/p>\n<p>Barry Thew, 39, was arrested wearing the top with the words &#8220;one less pig perfect justice&#8221; hours after the deaths of PCs Fiona Bone and Nicola Hughes.<\/p>\n<p>He admitted a public order offence and was jailed for four months at Minshull Street Crown Court in Manchester.<\/p>\n<p>Insp Bryn Williams said after the case that the T-shirt had been &#8220;appalling&#8221;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here in the UK, the prosecutions for saying something distasteful seem to be getting more and more ridiculous. 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