{"id":184,"date":"2012-01-31T00:31:00","date_gmt":"2012-01-31T04:31:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.skepticblogs.com\/justinvacula\/2012\/01\/31\/inoffensive-atheist-ad-challenge-accepted-in-pennsylvania\/"},"modified":"2012-01-31T00:31:00","modified_gmt":"2012-01-31T04:31:00","slug":"inoffensive-atheist-ad-challenge-accepted-in-pennsylvania","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/2012\/01\/31\/inoffensive-atheist-ad-challenge-accepted-in-pennsylvania\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Inoffensive atheist ad challenge&#8221; accepted in Pennsylvania"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-XC3OTWRTwto\/Tydx8SO1TBI\/AAAAAAAABcE\/_ktVdjH0avA\/s1600\/AtheistNEPAFreethoughtBannerAd.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0px auto 10px;text-align: center;cursor: hand;width: 400px;height: 235px\" src=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-XC3OTWRTwto\/Tydx8SO1TBI\/AAAAAAAABcE\/_ktVdjH0avA\/s400\/AtheistNEPAFreethoughtBannerAd.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Update:<br \/>\n1:30PM<br \/>\n1\/31\/12<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>More information is available on\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/nepafreethought.org\/news\/view?newsId=17\">nepafreethought.org<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/friendlyatheist\/2012\/01\/30\/an-inoffensive-atheist-ad-could-appear-on-pennsylvania-buses\/\">Friendly Atheist<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I still haven&#8217;t heard back from the person in charge of advertising. I had spoken with him yesterday and sent mock-up\/prelim designs. Thanks for the support thusfar! I will update when I get new information.<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A perfect storm of events recently happened. Last week, I utilized public transportation in Lackawanna County, Pennsylvania and saw a &#8220;God Bless America&#8221; scrolling-text message outside of the buses [which is not an advertisement placed there by someone spending money] which are funded &#8212; at the very least &#8212; by county, federal, and state governments\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/atheism-in-scranton\/county-of-lackawanna-transportation-system-displays-god-bless-america-message\">[I reported about this on 1\/30\/12<\/a>]. This may or may not be unconstitutional or a battle worth fighting in any legal sense, so with the help of my atheist activist friend Carl Silverman and the inspiration of a recent post &#8212;\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/friendlyatheist\/2012\/01\/26\/really-really-really-inoffensive-atheist-billboards\/\">&#8220;Really, Really,\u00a0<em>Really<\/em>\u00a0Inoffensive Atheist Billboards&#8221;<\/a>\u00a0on the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/friendlyatheist\">Friendly Atheist blog<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; written by Richard Wade, I decided to respond to the &#8220;God Bless America&#8221; message in an effort to &#8216;kill two birds with one stone&#8217; or perhaps &#8216;crack a shell&#8217; from two different angles by proposing a really, really,\u00a0<em>really<\/em>inoffensive atheistic advertisement.<\/p>\n<p>The idea, as seen above &#8212; for the advertisement &#8212; is quite simple, effective, and interesting. In the past few years, atheist billboards &#8212;\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/atheism-in-national\/humanists-win-right-to-advertise\">no matter how inoffensive they may seem<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; have been met with utter contempt from theists leading atheists to wonder, &#8220;Is the fact that we exist and want to advertise ourselves offensive to theists or is it something else?&#8221; In order to test this &#8212; and for science or great justice (whichever you prefer) &#8212; I want to place a king-size (30 inches by 144 inches) advertisement on the same buses which host the &#8220;God Bless America&#8221; messages with a blue sky\/white cloud background with the word &#8220;atheists&#8221; and the URL for the organization for which I am a co-organizer, spokesperson, podcast host, and board member of: the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nepafreethought.org\/\">NEPA Freethought Society<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>A message such as this should test the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/coltsbus.com\/images\/PDFfiles\/COLTS%20Advertising%20Policy.pdf\">advertising policy<\/a>\u00a0of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/coltsbus.com\/\">COLTS<\/a>\u00a0(County of Lackawanna Transit System) [which happens to be quite vague and dubious], counter the &#8220;God Bless America&#8221; message, get people talking about atheism, raise awareness for the NEPA Freethought Society, and possibly determine if people will get angry because they saw the word &#8220;atheists&#8221; and the url for the NEPA Freethought Society.<\/p>\n<p>I am very serious about doing this; this is not just a joke or a mere proposal. I spoke with the person who is in charge of advertising for COLTS, talked about the terms for the advertisement, and now am waiting on a response. Let us, as a community, band together, stand in solidarity, challenge potentially unconstitutional messages, and have some fun while we are at it.<\/p>\n<p>If COLTS rejects the advertisement, they will be face a potential lawsuit. What right does a bus authority have to reject an innocuous inoffensive message when said company receives &#8212; at the very least &#8212; state, county, and federal funding? Even worse, we see, is that the bus authority itself promotes a &#8220;God Bless America&#8221; message. Shall they show a religious message and reject one from a non-religious group?<\/p>\n<p>If COLTS accepts the advertisement, it&#8217;s game on! The &#8220;God Bless America&#8221; message is &#8216;countered,&#8217; we get to wait patiently for a response from the religious community, and may get to the bottom of the matter of whether or not the mere existence of atheists promoting themselves with a really, really,\u00a0<em>really<\/em>\u00a0inoffensive message is the problem for theists.<\/p>\n<p>This advertisement [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.titan360.com\/usa-index.html\">when compared to other cities<\/a>] is\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/coltsbus.com\/PricingOptions.html#Pricing\">very inexpensive<\/a>! The king size sign design &#8212; in corex including the production cost of copy and artwork &#8212; costs $110 dollars and the sign itself, in the 1-10 sign range, costs $125 a month. That&#8217;s only $235 for the first sign! Two signs, including the initial design, would cost a total of $360&#8230;and it goes up from there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I would like to collect donations for this initiative, but don&#8217;t want to do so until I receive an acceptance letter from the advertising person so that donors can know their money is going to something solid rather than something in question<\/strong>. I will post the acceptance letter, more details about the collection, and more details about the advertising terms when I hear back from the advertising person. The current draft of a plan is that donations collected will go to the sign + design costs and each &#8216;tier&#8217; of donations will allow for more signs (If $235 is collected when the collection elapses, one sign will be had and if $360 is collected, two signs will be had&#8230;.). The rest of the donations collected, after the collection period has elapsed, will be donated to\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/foundationbeyondbelief.org\/\">Foundation Beyond Belief<\/a>\u00a0(If, say, $300 is collected, one sign will be had and $65 will be donated).<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;and you can trust me! I have various officer positions with an secular organization,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/user\/4018096\/content\">write for Examiner.com<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/nepafreethought.org\/news\/podcast\/\">host a podcast<\/a>, am active in my local community (and have engaged in a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.justinvacula.com\/p\/nativity-controversy.html\">good<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.justinvacula.com\/2011\/12\/chiropractors-fiance-threatens-me-with.html\">\u00a0deal<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.justinvacula.com\/2011\/11\/my-school-voucher-protest-adventure.html\">of<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.justinvacula.com\/2011\/08\/dealing-with-anti-gay-protesters-at.html\">activism<\/a>), have\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.justinvacula.com\/2011\/11\/tonights-powerpoint.html\">spoken<\/a>\/<a href=\"http:\/\/www.justinvacula.com\/2011\/09\/my-911-remembrance-speech.html\">written speeches<\/a>\u00a0for\/at atheist events, am a member of various secular organizations, and much more. Hemant Mehta also likes this idea and has offered to help in some way. I can and will easily be blackballed if I re-neg (but I, of course, won&#8217;t).<\/p>\n<p>I will provide any and all updates when they are available. Thanks for your interest! Stay tuned&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update: 1:30PM 1\/31\/12 More information is available on\u00a0nepafreethought.org\u00a0and\u00a0Friendly Atheist. I still haven&#8217;t heard back from the person in charge of advertising. I had spoken with him yesterday and sent mock-up\/prelim designs. Thanks for the support thusfar! I will update when I get new information.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,22,33,48],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-184","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-colts","category-local","category-nepa-freethought-society-bus-campaign","category-separation-of-church-and-state"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/184","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=184"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/184\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=184"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=184"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=184"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}