{"id":658,"date":"2013-04-08T17:00:01","date_gmt":"2013-04-08T07:00:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/?p=658"},"modified":"2013-04-08T23:46:05","modified_gmt":"2013-04-08T13:46:05","slug":"i-support-the-cfi-conduct-policy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/2013\/04\/08\/i-support-the-cfi-conduct-policy\/","title":{"rendered":"I support the CFI conduct policy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There has been much discussion in the blogosphere about conduct policies &#8211; including misrepresentations of my own position. So let me just go clearly on the record to say that I support the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.centerforinquiry.net\/pages\/policy_on_harassment_at_conferences\">CFI policy on hostile conduct and\u00a0harassment\u00a0<\/a>when taken together with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.centerforinquiry.net\/blogs\/entry\/cfis_new_policy_on_hostile_conduct_harassment_at_conferences\/\">Ron Lindsay&#8217;s explanation <\/a>of the rationale behind it, and how it will be interpreted\/applied.<\/p>\n<p>With such policies, the devil is not only in the detailed wording but also in the (stated or unstated) intentions as to how the policy will be read &#8211; e.g. will the stated forms of prohibited behaviour be read broadly (so as to prohibit large\u00a0categories of behaviour) or will they be read down to an extent, so that the full literal meaning is not invoked and the exclusions are narrower? Lindsay&#8217;s statement makes clear that there will be some reading down. In particular, the phrase &#8220;unwelcome sexual attention&#8221; will <em>not<\/em> be read sweepingly\u00a0so as to include all possible behaviour that might fall within the literal words.<\/p>\n<p>Phrases such as &#8220;unwelcome sexual attention&#8221; or &#8220;inappropriate sexual conduct&#8221; are often used as euphemisms for something much nastier, such as sexual blackmail or assault. In some cases, the more anodyne phrasing is used to let offenders off the hook in public: it is a refusal to state the full nastiness of\u00a0what really happened. I think we should be more willing, in many of these cases, to state the ugly but important truth, rather than to use such euphemisms.<\/p>\n<p>However, these euphemisms are also out of place in harassment codes, since their literal effect would be to ban many kinds of benign\u00a0interaction, including interactions between spouses or lovers (if, for example, one pays sexual attention to the other who turns out &#8220;not to be in the mood right now, honey&#8221;). I&#8217;d like to see less use of these euphemisms all round. They only create confusion. In particular, I despise the weasel\u00a0word &#8220;inappropriate&#8221; in this context.<\/p>\n<p>However, Lindsay makes quite clear that what is meant is not, for example, an ill-judged (hence\u00a0&#8220;unwelcome&#8221;)\u00a0attempt at flirting or to set up a romantic date. Rather, it is obnoxious or abusive\u00a0sexual conduct. Lindsay writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As already indicated, our aim is to apply the policy in a way that is objectively reasonable using contemporary standards. It is not our intention to prohibit flirting or a polite expression of interest in another person. For example, without more, the question, \u201cWould you be interested in having a drink later?\u201d would not be considered harassment.<\/p>\n<p>But one-time expressions of interest\/invitations to an encounter could be inappropriate [ugh!] under the policy, which is why inserting the word \u201crepeated\u201d in the policy would be unwise. To take a crude example (those with delicate sensibilities can skip ahead), asking someone \u201cWouldn\u2019t you like to bury your head in my crotch and suck my dick?\u201d could constitute harassment, even if it is said only once and accompanied by no other action.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is fair enough. The explanatory post also makes clear that the behaviour must be\u00a0&#8220;both objectively abusive <strong><em>and<\/em><\/strong> subjectively abusive; in other words, it must be conduct &#8216;that a reasonable person would find hostile or abusive and one that the victim did in fact perceive to be so'&#8221; (my emphasis). I think this is\u00a0the\u00a0correct approach, legally and in terms of ordinary good sense, even though not spelled out clearly in the policy itself. So the phrase &#8220;unwelcome sexual attention&#8221; will be read down to mean &#8220;unwelcome <em>and objectively abusive<\/em> sexual attention&#8221;. On that basis, I don&#8217;t think this code\u00a0is objectionable in any way, and it may do some good.<\/p>\n<p>For the record, I have never been against codes of conduct for conventions. I have been against <em>poorly drafted<\/em> or <em>overreaching<\/em> codes of conduct. Once Lindsay&#8217;s explanation of the purpose and intention\u00a0is taken into account, I don&#8217;t consider the CFI conduct policy to be overreaching. Furthermore,\u00a0weaknesses in the drafting are pretty much cured by the overall stipulation that the conduct must be not only subjectively unwanted but also objectively (in the sense used by lawyers) abusive. Better still,\u00a0Lindsay&#8217;s post deals with many of the problems that can arise with such policies &#8211; to its credit, the CFI rejected all of the policy elements that most worry me about such policies. For example, it rejected blacklists, dress codes, restrictions on sexual language and imagery, and restrictions on who can have sex with whom. None of these highly draconian and intrusive\u00a0proposals\u00a0&#8211; some of which were being advocated at the time, and some of which have actually appeared in certain other policies! &#8211; can be found in the CFI policy.<\/p>\n<p>Accordingly, I support the CFI policy (in its stated\u00a0interpretation and application), and it will cause me no misgivings about appearing at CFI conventions.<\/p>\n<p>I know that some of my readers have stronger reservations about such policies than I do. If you do, let&#8217;s have a civil discussion about it. I think that many people have unnecessary concerns about conduct policies in general (as opposed to poor drafting or overreaching attempts to\u00a0control our behaviour). Perhaps I can allay at least some of them.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There has been much discussion in the blogosphere about conduct policies &#8211; including misrepresentations of my own position. So let me just go clearly on the record to say that I support the CFI policy on hostile conduct and\u00a0harassment\u00a0when taken together with Ron Lindsay&#8217;s explanation of the rationale behind it, and how it will be [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":37,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30,19,92,18],"tags":[258,257,259],"class_list":["post-658","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-culture","category-debate","category-law","category-politics","tag-cfi","tag-harassment-policies","tag-misconduct"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/658","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/37"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=658"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/658\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=658"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=658"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=658"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}