{"id":53,"date":"2013-01-05T23:30:00","date_gmt":"2013-01-05T12:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/?p=53"},"modified":"2013-01-05T23:37:29","modified_gmt":"2013-01-05T12:37:29","slug":"why-do-we-love-villains","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/2013\/01\/05\/why-do-we-love-villains\/","title":{"rendered":"Why do we love villains?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One my ambitions &#8211; perhaps to be saved for a far-off time &#8211; is to write a book about fictional villains. What roles do they play in myth, literary narrative, and popular culture? What does the existence, and often the popularity, of these\u00a0malevolent, yet sometimes\u00a0charismatic, figures tell us? How has the concept of villainy developed over the centuries and over recent decades, and what does <em>that<\/em> tell us (perhaps about ourselves or the trajectory of history)?<\/p>\n<p>Surprisingly little seems to have <a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/2013\/01\/05\/why-do-we-love-villains\/arnie-terminator2-420x0\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-54\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-54\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/files\/2013\/01\/arnie-terminator2-420x0-300x285.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"285\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/files\/2013\/01\/arnie-terminator2-420x0-300x285.jpg 300w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/files\/2013\/01\/arnie-terminator2-420x0.jpg 420w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>been written on this general topic, unless you count the <a href=\"http:\/\/tvtropes.org\/pmwiki\/pmwiki.php\/Main\/Villains\">lovingly detailed work of fans on the TV Tropes site<\/a>. There are stray books that might be relevant, such as this one, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Oxford-Book-Villains-John-Mortimer\/dp\/0192822772\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1357387018&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=john+mortimer+villains\"><em>The Oxford\u00a0Book of Villains<\/em><\/a>,\u00a0by John Mortimer (which I must get around to reading some time), and this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Supervillains-Philosophy-Sometimes-Popular-Culture\/dp\/0812696697\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1357387137&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=supervillains+and+philosophy\">collection of essays about supervillains<\/a>, edited by Ben Dyer,\u00a0which uses them as a jumping off point to discuss philosophical issues. That&#8217;s something you&#8217;ll also be seeing me do\u00a0in future posts, but Dyer&#8217;s\u00a0book <a href=\"http:\/\/metamagician3000.blogspot.com.au\/2011\/02\/sunday-supervillainy-supervillians-and.html\">didn&#8217;t\u00a0super impress me <\/a>(as it were).<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and <a href=\"http:\/\/bigthink.com\/against-the-new-taboo\/creating-better-villains-part-1\">here are two <\/a>thoughtful <a href=\"http:\/\/bigthink.com\/against-the-new-taboo\/creating-better-villains-part-2\">posts<\/a> by Tauriq Moosa about creating better villains.\u00a0I&#8217;m sure that many writers would insist that they already do what Moosa is proposing, but he\u00a0has raised interesting issues about it all: about what villainy in narrative signifies and how we should evaluate examples of it. You needn&#8217;t agree with all his judgments, but do check\u00a0out his posts (indeed, you could do worse than check out his Against the New Taboo blog more generally; he&#8217;s a smart guy).<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve also raised <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.talkingphilosophy.com\/?p=5727\">over at Talking<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.talkingphilosophy.com\/?p=5727\"> Philosophy<\/a> the issue of why we\u00a0love (at\u00a0least some) villains, and there&#8217;s\u00a0good commentary in the thread. I ask\u00a0what makes some of these malevolent fictional characters not only believably charismatic within the fictional world but actually charismatic figures in the real world\u00a0\u2013 in that they attract fans who cheer for them, buy posters of them, and want to read stories, see movies, etc., that are focused on them. On the face of it, it seems odd that narratives which depict the struggle between good and evil end up generating evil characters who are somehow alluring enough to attract their own large fan bases like this. I\u2019m not suggesting that there\u2019s anything wrong with the situation,\u00a0but there is\u00a0something about it that seems paradoxical.<\/p>\n<p>All this is interesting in its own right, I hope, but it also provides a lead-in to my first post here at the new site in my long-running Sunday Supervillainy series, where all this and much more gets discussed (or sometimes we just let our hair down a little and talk about something less serious than happened the rest of the week). It&#8217;s almost Sunday, so I&#8217;ll be finding some supervillainy to talk about in that first post.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One my ambitions &#8211; perhaps to be saved for a far-off time &#8211; is to write a book about fictional villains. 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