{"id":503,"date":"2013-03-03T12:00:22","date_gmt":"2013-03-03T01:00:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/?p=503"},"modified":"2013-03-03T13:17:29","modified_gmt":"2013-03-03T02:17:29","slug":"canadian-court-gets-it-wrong-on-free-speech","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/2013\/03\/03\/canadian-court-gets-it-wrong-on-free-speech\/","title":{"rendered":"Canadian court gets it wrong on free speech"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Among the \u00a0issues that come up in my book\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Freedom-Religion-Secular-Russell-Blackford\/dp\/0470674032\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1362272018&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=freedom+of+religion+and+the+secular+state\"><em>Freedom\u00a0of Religion and the Secular State<\/em><\/a> is the relationship\u00a0between freedom\u00a0of religion and freedom of speech.<\/p>\n<p>One of the specifics\u00a0that I discuss at some length\u00a0is vilification of certain religions and\/or their adherents. Another is violent speech in the name of religion, such as\u00a0the Ayatollah Khomeini&#8217;s 1989\u00a0fatw\u0101\u00a0against\u00a0 Salman Rushdie. As <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Secular-Outlook-Defense-Political-Secularism\/dp\/1444335219\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1362272096&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=paul+cliteur\">Paul Cliteur has pointed out<\/a>\u00a0(you should by <em>his<\/em> book, too!), the problem here is not that Khomeini&#8217;s speech showed a lack of respect for Rushdie, or that it failed to stimulate dialogue, or even that it was socially divisive. Rather, it incited murder. As events demonstrated, such speech creates a clear and present danger to its victim&#8217;s life.\u00a0Rushdie&#8217;s\u00a0Japanese translator, Hitoshi Igarashi, was stabbed to death in 1991 and his Italian translator, Ettore Capriolo, was seriously wounded in the same year. These incidents\u00a0demonstrate the power of this kind of incitement, by figures who are accorded religious authority, even if they are not in physical proximity to the victim.<\/p>\n<p>With many forms of communication that can reach fanatics of one kind or another everywhere in the world, it would be too much to require that the state restrain incitements to violence only where the speaker and victim\u00a0are\u00a0in close physical proximity. Nonetheless, the state should not move too far from the spirit of John Stuart Mill&#8217;s famous corn dealer example (incitement of angry mob in front of someone&#8217;s house).<\/p>\n<p>Another example that I touch on in <em>Freedom of Religion and the Secular State<\/em> is the\u00a01994 Rwandan Genocide, in which approximately 800,000 Tutsis were massacred over a period of about three months. Again, this\u00a0demonstrate the power of the modern media to deliver messages of hatred, particularly hate propaganda that calls for\u00a0violence against identifiable groups, which could be ethnic, cultural, racial, or religious. Dehumanizing propaganda campaigns of this sort can support acts of discrimination, violence, and even genocide. The state doubtless has an interest in deterring this kind of hate propaganda, as well as incitements against particular individuals (such as Rushdie) by those (such as Khomeini) who are likely to be heeded by fanatics.<\/p>\n<p>With that in mind, I see some value in <a href=\"http:\/\/scc.lexum.org\/decisia-scc-csc\/scc-csc\/scc-csc\/en\/item\/12876\/index.do\">the reasoning of the\u00a0Supreme Court of Canada<\/a>\u00a0in <em>Saskatchewan (Human Rights Commission) v. Whatcott<\/em>. The court is trying to draw a line, and it seems to want\u00a0to ban extreme hate propaganda, while not bannng\u00a0something lesser that might\u00a0involve denigration and mockery of individuals\u00a0or groups. However unpleasant and unjustifiable the latter might be (and\u00a0it\u00a0is certainly the\u00a0sort of thing that merits <em>criticism<\/em> in many cases) it should\u00a0not\u00a0be the\u00a0role of the state to <em>ban<\/em> it. In itself, that sounds reasonable, and it&#8217;s a distinction that I have toyed with in the past &#8211; some kind of law that would capture the worst kinds of hate propaganda but not much else.<\/p>\n<p>However, if you go to the link and look right at the end you&#8217;ll see examples of the sort of speech that the court was prepared to suppress &#8211; there were two crazy, deeply offensive pieces of anti-gay propaganda, written from a hardline Christian perspective. It&#8217;s obnoxious stuff, as I said in the previous post, but I don&#8217;t think it is the sort of material that ought to be banned. While some of it may approach the line, I don&#8217;t think, overall, that it even falls into a grey area around that\u00a0line.<\/p>\n<p>Certainly there is contempt in, for example, the references to &#8220;sodomites&#8221;, and it may even amount to hatred and verge on dehumanisation. Still, it is a long way from the kinds of extreme speech that are likely to lead to violence, such as the Rushdie fatw\u0101 or the\u00a0Rwanda incitements. Do read the material for yourself.<\/p>\n<p>I think that the court has drawn the line in the wrong place. Fanatical anti-gay campaigners such as Mr Whatcott are unpleasant people, but I think overall that they should be allowed to sound off in the way that he did in his flyers. There is some incitement to discrimination, but mainly, as far as I can see, in the form of changing the law to discriminate against gays &#8211; and I think that people should be allowed to propose all sorts of terrible laws (though it&#8217;s good to have constitutions and judges as impediments to them actually being enacted, even with electoral support). In all, people should not be prevented by law from expressing even these sorts of extreme, irrational,\u00a0and ugly views, though we have every reason to respond by calling their\u00a0views extreme, irrational, and ugly.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Among the \u00a0issues that come up in my book\u00a0Freedom\u00a0of Religion and the Secular State is the relationship\u00a0between freedom\u00a0of religion and freedom of speech. One of the specifics\u00a0that I discuss at some length\u00a0is vilification of certain religions and\/or their adherents. Another is violent speech in the name of religion, such as\u00a0the Ayatollah Khomeini&#8217;s 1989\u00a0fatw\u0101\u00a0against\u00a0 Salman Rushdie. 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