{"id":429,"date":"2013-02-22T11:00:22","date_gmt":"2013-02-22T00:00:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/?p=429"},"modified":"2013-02-22T11:05:59","modified_gmt":"2013-02-22T00:05:59","slug":"pushback-against-nz-scripture-classes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/2013\/02\/22\/pushback-against-nz-scripture-classes\/","title":{"rendered":"Pushback against NZ scripture classes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Like Australia&#8217;s various states, New Zealand makes provision for religious classes in public schools &#8211; though in this case it is via a clause that enables the supposedly secular schools to &#8220;close&#8221; for bible classes in school hours. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stuff.co.nz\/national\/education\/8337031\/Pressure-on-Government-over-bible-lessons\">It&#8217;s reported today <\/a>that the New Zealand system\u00a0is copping some pushback.<\/p>\n<p>As always, I wonder why a modern secular state with no theological views of its own would provide for religious teaching (as opposed to teaching <em>about<\/em> the world&#8217;s various religious) through its public school system. It is, of course, difficult to reverse a decision that has been made in the past and has much electoral support. Given that this is what has been inherited from previous generations, one secular reason for leaving it alone is the somewhat cynical one of &#8220;don&#8217;t rock the boat&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Very well, but it&#8217;s also not surprising that these arrangements are meeting with pushback &#8211; in some cases it&#8217;s a request for modification to provide better for the needs of children who are not religious (i.e. to give them a secular\u00a0alternative). In other cases it&#8217;s outright opposition to arrangements that are clearly anachronistic and can be justified only on\u00a0cynical grounds. To complicate the situation, scripture classes these days seem\u00a0more aggressive than when I was in\u00a0high school in the 1960s and 1970s, when they were considered something of a joke by most students. I&#8217;m not sure whether this is true of New Zealand, but in Australia there has been a tendency toward centralising\u00a0curricula and program delivery\u00a0in the hands of organisations that seek strongly to evangelise students &#8211; it&#8217;s no longer so much\u00a0a matter of local ministers (often relatively liberal Anglican priests)\u00a0turning up to chat to their nominal parishioners once a week.<\/p>\n<p>Times are changing, and I doubt that these sorts of classes can survive in their traditional form in secular countries like Australia and New Zealand. Nor should they &#8211; at bottom, it is not the role of the state to help out religious organisations wanting to proselytise, or to minister to their faithful. Those parents who want to send their children to state schools while <em>also<\/em> wanting to socialise them into religious teachings are free to do the latter outside of school hours.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Like Australia&#8217;s various states, New Zealand makes provision for religious classes in public schools &#8211; though in this case it is via a clause that enables the supposedly secular schools to &#8220;close&#8221; for bible classes in school hours. It&#8217;s reported today that the New Zealand system\u00a0is copping some pushback. As always, I wonder why a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":37,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[37,13],"tags":[187,186,185],"class_list":["post-429","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-in-the-news","category-religion","tag-new-zealand","tag-religious-education","tag-secularism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/429","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/37"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=429"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/429\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=429"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=429"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=429"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}