{"id":398,"date":"2013-02-21T00:01:06","date_gmt":"2013-02-20T13:01:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/?p=398"},"modified":"2013-02-21T09:38:49","modified_gmt":"2013-02-20T22:38:49","slug":"ben-radford-on-lack-of-charity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/2013\/02\/21\/ben-radford-on-lack-of-charity\/","title":{"rendered":"Ben Radford on lack of charity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>For some time now, I&#8217;ve worried about the lack of charity, civility, and reasonableness that we see from some quarters of the broad secular movement when we have discussions among ourselves about important and controversial\u00a0issues. I&#8217;m not the only one: for example, this has been a concern of Daniel Fincke&#8217;s, leading to his recent proposal of a civility pledge. While I think that pledge is too detailed, and is open to manipulation if someone wants to argue about specific behaviour, proposing it is at least a step in the right direction.<\/p>\n<p>For myself, I think it&#8217;s adequate to make some attempt to be civil, charitable, and reasonable (in the sense of being prepared to compromise, try to see the other person&#8217;s viewpoint, etc.). It&#8217;s something to try to keep in mind as we discuss issues with our peers. Even this much would greatly lift the intellectual standard of the discourse that goes on, as well as creating a kinder, more pleasant, less intimidating\u00a0environment in which to exchange perceptions and opinions. This doesn&#8217;t mean that we must\u00a0never resort to denunciation, satire, or mockery, no matter the target\u00a0or the circumstances, but they should be tools that we&#8217;d rarely use when engaging with people who are, on the face of it, honest, generally decent, and evidently willing to reciprocate civil, charitable, reasonable behaviour. At some point, we might decide that individuals\u00a0who are recalcitrantly uncivil, etc., or show that they simply don&#8217;t value civility, charity, and reasonableness, don&#8217;t merit much consideration from us &#8211; so they become fairer game for our mockery,\u00a0scorn, and anger &#8211; but that should not\u00a0be our starting point in discussion with evidently good people.<\/p>\n<p>Too often, though, we see an immediate\u00a0impulse to smear, trash, dogpile, and (attempt to) shame people for having the &#8220;wrong&#8221; views on a difficult topic, or for expressing their views in the &#8220;wrong&#8221; way, or for adopting the &#8220;wrong&#8221; attitude to a topic &#8211; by, for example, looking at different\u00a0sides and offering dispassionate analysis\u00a0(someone has to) of issues that push emotional buttons, etc. Where the individuals\u00a0who show this impulse\u00a0use a large platform to express it, other people with considerably smaller platforms can find themselves\u00a0with their reputations ruined\u00a0and little chance to do anything about\u00a0it. This is, of course, a tactic of intimidation and it deserves nothing but\u00a0our contempt.<\/p>\n<p>Ben Radford has been a recent victim of the kind of smearing, trashing, dogpiling, etc., that I am talking about, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.centerforinquiry.net\/blogs\/entry\/being_over_it-and_the_lack_of_charity\/\">he has responded with a post lamenting the lack of charity online<\/a>. His\u00a0post provides you with the links that you need to get the full context. I hope that Radford&#8217;s post will be widely read. It&#8217;s detailed, but very easy to follow, and it&#8217;s the kind of thing that needs to be\u00a0said over and over. It\u00a0often\u00a0it seems that we have to re-invent the basics of civil, charitable, reasonable discourse from scratch &#8211; these\u00a0had to be worked out gradually in print-based controversies, where the impulse of pamphleteers in earlier centuries was to reach very quickly\u00a0for accusations of ignorance, malice, bad character, and bad faith. A hard-won wisdom was eventually gained, and intellectual controversy in modern-day books, magazines, and journals is usually a fair bit better than this.\u00a0In the hurly-burly of internet debate, however, all that hard-won wisdom often seems to be missing. It&#8217;s something worth standing up for.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Postscript:<\/strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/rationallyspeaking.blogspot.com.au\/2013\/02\/to-fling-poo-or-not-to-fling-poo.html\">This new post <\/a>by\u00a0Steve Neumann\u00a0is also relevant to the discussion. Check it out.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For some time now, I&#8217;ve worried about the lack of charity, civility, and reasonableness that we see from some quarters of the broad secular movement when we have discussions among ourselves about important and controversial\u00a0issues. 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