{"id":1635,"date":"2018-05-02T20:15:23","date_gmt":"2018-05-02T20:15:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/?p=1635"},"modified":"2018-05-02T20:15:23","modified_gmt":"2018-05-02T20:15:23","slug":"science-fiction-philosophy-conversation-russell-blackford-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/2018\/05\/02\/science-fiction-philosophy-conversation-russell-blackford-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Science Fiction &amp; Philosophy: A Conversation with Russell Blackford (part 1)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/SFMI.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-1636\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/SFMI-198x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"198\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/SFMI-198x300.jpg 198w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/SFMI.jpg 330w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 198px) 100vw, 198px\" \/><\/a>Those of you who know me a bit (or have just checked out my<a href=\"http:\/\/www.librarything.com\/catalog\/caleblack\"> LibraryThing page<\/a>) are well aware of my love for the genre of science fiction. I&#8217;ve been a huge fan for as far back as I can remember, and a majority of my non-fiction falls into either that or the broad fantasy realm. As such, when I saw that my friend and former Skeptic Ink Network colleague <a href=\"http:\/\/www.russellblackford.com\/\">Russell Blackford<\/a> had a new book coming out titled <span id=\"productTitle\" class=\"a-size-extra-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Science-Fiction-Moral-Imagination-Visions\/dp\/3319616838\/\"><em>Science Fiction and the Moral Imagination: Visions, Minds, Ethics<\/em><\/a>, I knew we were all in for a treat.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>In case you aren&#8217;t already familiar with Russell, he&#8217;s an award-winning Australian\u00a0philosopher, legal scholar, and literary critic who is based in Newcastle, NSW. A <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Russell-Blackford\/e\/B001HPG31C\/\">prolific author<\/a>, he&#8217;s also a Fellow of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ieet.org\/\">Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies<\/a>, editor-in-chief of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/jetpress.org\/\">The Journal of Evolution and Technology<\/a><\/em>, a regular op-ed columnist with <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.secularhumanism.org\/index.php?section=fi&amp;page=index\">Free Inquiry<\/a><\/em>, and a Laureate of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.secularhumanism.org\/index.php\/3258\">International Academy of Humanism<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>After reading <span id=\"productTitle\" class=\"a-size-extra-large\"><em>Science Fiction and the Moral Imagination, <\/em>I asked Russell if he&#8217;d be interested in submitting himself to a bit of an interview on some of the topics touched upon by the book, as well as about himself and his writings generally. He graciously agreed, so below is part 1 of our interview. Part 2 should be up in a few days. My questions are <strong>bolded<\/strong>, with Russell&#8217;s replies directly underneath. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Which came first, your interest in science fiction or philosophy? How has your love of one influenced your love of the other?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Technically, my interest in science fiction came first: it dates back to primary school, whereas my formal interest in philosophy dates back only as far as high school \u2013 and it blossomed when I went to university. Still, my interest in science \u2013 and in the general picture of the world revealed through rational inquiry \u2013 goes back even further than my interest in science fiction.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/howandwhy.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-1637\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/howandwhy-300x253.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"253\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/howandwhy-300x253.jpg 300w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/howandwhy-768x647.jpg 768w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/howandwhy.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>From almost as soon as I could read, I was delighted by the expositions of science and history in children\u2019s encyclopedias and in popular book series aimed at kids, such as the <em>How and Why Wonder Books<\/em> that were much loved in the 1960s. As a young child, I was quite sickly \u2013 long, irrelevant story here \u2013 and often confined to bed. I responded, in part, by immersing myself in the world of books. My love of books has remained with me, and sustained me, all my life. But for whatever reason, I initially took less to fiction aimed at my age group than to books that could tell me about the actual world, about the entire space-time world that was so vastly larger than anything in my experience as a working-class boy growing up in an industrial city in Australia.<\/p>\n<p>When I did start to read more fiction during my later years of primary school, I turned, in particular, to science fiction. Soon I was reading everything I could find that fell into the SF genre. By the age of 10 or 11, I\u2019d already moved on from SF aimed specifically at children to the work of Isaac Asimov, Robert A. Heinlein (I read the \u201cHeinlein juveniles,\u201d of course, but also everything else by Heinlein that was available to me in local libraries and bookshops), Arthur C. Clarke, Ray Bradbury, Alfred Bester, Brian Aldisss, and many others.<\/p>\n<p>(Soon I was also reading stories, by the likes of Michael Moorcock, about magical fantasy worlds. Somewhere around there, I also developed a fascination with superhero comics, but that\u2019s a whole other story.)<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t think that the love that I developed for SF led to my love of philosophy, but, anyway, what bright kid hasn\u2019t become something of a budding philosopher, however naive, by the age of 10 or so? Who, reading this, didn\u2019t spend time, as a child, wondering about the classic Big Questions, such as those about the existence of a god or gods, about whether we have free will in some sense, or are subject to fate, whether we survive our deaths, how we should live our lives, and how we should best plan human societies?<\/p>\n<p>I doubted the answers to these sorts of questions offered by religion, and those doubts continued during my teenage years, even when I became deeply involved for a time in Evangelical Christianity. It seemed to me natural to approach the Big Questions in the light of my (obviously very limited) scientific understanding of the world, and to look for how far reason and inquiry could take us in answering them.<\/p>\n<p>In short, I\u2019m no scientist, but I\u2019ve always found the expanding and deepening scientific picture of the world a source of fascination, and this influenced not only my taste in literature \u2013 hence science fiction \u2013 but also my approach to philosophy. My love of science fiction and my continued willingness to take the Big Questions seriously seem to me to have come from a deeper source in how I\u2019m inclined to try to understand the world. That is, I\u2019m inclined to skeptical doubt, to logical analysis, and to efforts at intellectual clarity. I\u2019ve always found myself slightly alienated by traditional, yet poorly defended, answers, and I\u2019m inclined to yearn for a unity of knowledge, to try to grasp how it all fits together.<\/p>\n<p>With all that said about my own psychological quirks, there are well-known synergies between science fiction and philosophy, and it\u2019s common for philosophers to be avid SF readers as well as employing their own science-fictional thought experiments.<\/p>\n<p>I should now add that everything I\u2019ve said to this point is a simplification. For a start, many other influences have fed into the way I think about philosophical questions. Also, much as I do, indeed, love science fiction, I have a love of mythology, poetry, drama, and literary fiction that extends my tastes in narrative well beyond SF.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What compelled you to write this book? What do you hope people reading it take away?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To be honest, I wrote it because I was approached by a major academic publisher, Springer. They inquired whether I might be interested in pitching a proposal for their \u201cScience and Fiction\u201d series of books, which is really a series of monographs about science and <em>science<\/em> fiction. There\u2019s a long story about what I had written and edited previously, etc., that might have made me an obvious person for a publisher to contact about something like this. But I won\u2019t go into that here; it\u2019s not very relevant, and there\u2019s a whole checkered life history involved.<\/p>\n<p>After some useful \u2013 by which I really mean clarificatory \u2013 correspondence went back and forth, I was able to work up a formal proposal quite quickly. It seemed obvious that there was, at the very least, much that I could say about <em>philosophy<\/em> and science fiction, if not more exactly about <em>science<\/em> and science fiction. And from there it took little more thought to realize that, if I explored the SF genre in some detail from the viewpoint of a philosopher, I\u2019d soon find myself discussing the historical rise of science and how it made the genre possible and shaped its themes. I was also delighted to have an excuse to fill gaps in my reading and viewing, and to re-read many favorite novels and stories that I hadn\u2019t broached for years.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/spaceship-3365256_1280.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-1638\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/spaceship-3365256_1280-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"395\" height=\"221\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/spaceship-3365256_1280-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/spaceship-3365256_1280-768x429.jpg 768w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/spaceship-3365256_1280-1024x572.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/files\/2018\/05\/spaceship-3365256_1280.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 395px) 100vw, 395px\" \/><\/a>Most of my philosophical work is in moral, legal, and political philosophy. I soon found myself thinking about the ways in which questions from moral philosophy can be connected to many of SF\u2019s popular icons, themes, and narrative tropes: for instance, to stories about aliens, mutants, robots, and Artificial Intelligence, or about adventures in vast space and deep time. Among other things, it was clear that I had much to say about what I refer to in <em>Science Fiction and the Moral Imagination<\/em> as science fiction\u2019s Intelligent Others: non-human, but rational, beings of various kinds. I was asking \u2013 not for the first time, but now with some intensity \u2013 what these imaginary beings signify when they appear in SF narratives. How are they used to engage with moral questions? How has our collective imagination of these Intelligent Others been shaped by scientific knowledge and understanding, and how would we regard extraterrestrial aliens or cognitively superior mutants, for example, if they actually existed and we encountered them?<\/p>\n<p>Moving on, you asked what I hope to have offered my readers. First, I\u2019ve offered a book that should be accessible to bright teenagers, and will definitely be accessible to undergraduate college students. It is aimed at a wide audience. When I write a book like this, I hope to establish some points that genuinely add to our understanding, so that even experts might take an interest and perhaps benefit. I\u2019m trying to make some intellectual progress. But I don\u2019t write in a way that is accessible only to experts. I hope that <em>Science Fiction and the Moral Imagination<\/em> can hold the attention of almost anybody who is interested in its set of topics.<\/p>\n<p>Second, it is not the sort of book that uses science fiction narratives as a springboard to explain philosophical ideas. To be clear, I do introduce whatever philosophical ideas I think are needed, and I hope I\u2019ve done so in a way that is accurate, accessible, and absorbing. However, I\u2019m interested in science fiction for its own sake, not as a pedagogical device. I\u2019m more interested in examining the cultural phenomenon of science fiction from the viewpoint of a philosopher than in using SF stories to sugarcoat and introduce philosophy. To a large extent, then, the book can be seen as an exercise in the philosophy <em>of<\/em> science fiction, though in truth there is also much discussion of the philosophical ideas found <em>in<\/em> science fiction.<\/p>\n<p>I hope that a reader with an interest in the genre will obtain a deeper and clearer understanding of how science fiction works. I hope that even those people with much greater SF erudition than I possess \u2013 such people do exist! \u2013 will discover that I\u2019ve formulated some ideas which seem familiar, but in ways that they hadn\u2019t consciously put into their own words. I hope they\u2019ll be able to make some new connections among the imaginative novels, stories, movies, and so on, that they\u2019re familiar with. If luck goes my way, some SF scholars and fans might even start using terminology that I\u2019ve brought to the discusion, such as \u201cthe ethic of destiny\u201d and \u201cIntelligent Others.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>One last point is relevant here. I\u2019m often critical of various approaches to discussing literature and popular narratives. In <em>Science Fiction and the Moral Imagination<\/em>, I examine many SF novels, stories, and movies (and even a few TV shows and plays), and I hope I\u2019ve at least provided one useful model of how it can be done. With luck, I\u2019ve approached the texts under discussion in a way that is accessible and fair, as informed, complex, and nuanced as required, and perhaps occasionally insightful. If I\u2019ve managed to achieve that even part of the time, I\u2019ve made a cultural contribution.<\/p>\n<p><em>Check back soon for Part 2 of the interview, where we talk about specific book recommendations and approaches to writing fiction versus non-fiction.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Those of you who know me a bit (or have just checked out my LibraryThing page) are well aware of&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":25,"featured_media":1636,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[632,16],"tags":[1091,986,585,1002],"class_list":["post-1635","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-featured","category-science-2","tag-moral","tag-philosophy","tag-russell-blackford","tag-science-fiction"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1635","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/25"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1635"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1635\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1636"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1635"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1635"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/gps\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1635"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}