{"id":74,"date":"2016-03-03T18:20:11","date_gmt":"2016-03-03T18:20:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/?p=74"},"modified":"2016-03-03T18:20:11","modified_gmt":"2016-03-03T18:20:11","slug":"maryam-namazie-arguing-internet-criticizing-ideological-allies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/2016\/03\/03\/maryam-namazie-arguing-internet-criticizing-ideological-allies\/","title":{"rendered":"Sam Harris, Maryam Namazie and Criticizing One&#8217;s Ideological Allies"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When I first considered weighing in on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.samharris.org\/podcast\/item\/throw-open-the-gates\" target=\"_blank\">frustrating debate<\/a> between Sam Harris and Maryam Namazie, I intended to try and rationalize the latter\u2019s atrocious\u00a0response to feedback on Twitter. After all, criticism undoubtedly feels more severe when you have tens of thousands of followers. If I write something contentious, I\u2019m likely to hear from no more than half a dozen aggrieved readers. For someone like Namazie, clicking on her notifications must be the social media equivalent of the Normandy landings. And no matter how politely you word the tweet, your opinion is a snowflake within an avalanche of negative feedback.<\/p>\n<p>Inevitably, some of that feedback will be truly hostile. Even if 90 percent is civil, it\u2019s tarnished by 10 percent of pernicious nonsense. It doesn\u2019t matter that you were cordial or presented a sound argument. You ultimately agree with <em>those<\/em> bigots on <em>this<\/em> issue, and there is insufficient time to parse every response. As a result, the recipient\u2019s first instinct isn\u2019t to be fair to those polite people who agree, however narrowly, with the knuckle-dragging idiots hurling sexist and racist abuse.<\/p>\n<p>As I said at the outset, the above defense was going to be the thrust of my post. However, my feelings have evolved over the past several days. While everything I said in the first couple of paragraphs is true, at some point it ceases to be an excuse for behaviour that continues to be egregious. If you exported the recent content of Namazie\u2019s Twitter onto Nathan Lean\u2019s timeline, very few tweets would look out of place. She has accused her critics\u2014as a group\u2014of racism, misogyny, and guilt by association. I don\u2019t give Lean a pass when he makes similar noises, so it would be hypocritical to absolve Namazie of blame. Here are just a few of her many tweets and approving retweets about her critics.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Sam is only responsible for his own Tweets as are we all. Night all. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/IoZL9jSlck\">https:\/\/t.co\/IoZL9jSlck<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Maryam Namazie \u0645\u0631\u06cc\u0645 \u0646\u0645\u0627\u0632\u06cc (@MaryamNamazie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MaryamNamazie\/status\/702661471117963265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 25, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Sam&#39;s fans are delightful. I guess that&#39;s what happens when you promote a far-Right narrative. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/AghYx5BHnh\">https:\/\/t.co\/AghYx5BHnh<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Maryam Namazie \u0645\u0631\u06cc\u0645 \u0646\u0645\u0627\u0632\u06cc (@MaryamNamazie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MaryamNamazie\/status\/703704858461933568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 27, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">It&#39;s because I&#39;m a &#39;stupid, crazy, emotional&#39; &#39;woman&#39; who jut can&#39;t see how good profiling and collective blame are <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KiranOpal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@KiranOpal<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Ahashesh?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@Ahashesh<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Maryam Namazie \u0645\u0631\u06cc\u0645 \u0646\u0645\u0627\u0632\u06cc (@MaryamNamazie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MaryamNamazie\/status\/703119080845287424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 26, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/_Har1_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@_har1_<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MaryamNamazie?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@MaryamNamazie<\/a> Misogyny, that&#39;s what&#39;s up.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Ophelia Benson (@OpheliaBenson) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OpheliaBenson\/status\/704021417705082880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 28, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/twitter.com\/KiranOpal\/status\/703058658490523648<\/p>\n<p>Despite repeatedly claiming to only see individuals, she continues to make nasty generalizations about critics of her appearance on the Waking Up podcast. Despite stating that Harris is only responsible for his own words, she has associated him with every ugly tweet directed at her. Despite bemoaning the deeds of the far left, she is currently guilty of precisely the same thing. I rationalized Namazie\u2019s ill-tempered response to Quilliam\u2019s appointment of Adam Deen as their Head of Outreach, but it is simply indefensible to continually\u00a0ignore her petulant behaviour.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d be remiss if I didn\u2019t also acknowledge my recent exchange with Amir Pars\u2014someone similarly\u00a0worthy of admiration. I politely questioned his claim that \u201catheist fanboys\u201d represent the worst of Twitter. It\u2019s fair to say Pars didn\u2019t appreciate my perspective. He responded with all the equanimity of Joe Pesci in a Scorsese movie, before blocking me for querying the reasoning behind his claim. It took all of three contrary tweets for him to permanently retreat from the discussion. The silver lining to all of this is that the whole episode has alerted me to a bias I wasn\u2019t conscious of having. Specifically, I am much more forgiving of people on the left when they express ignorance or act in bad faith.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AmirPars_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@AmirPars_<\/a> I can&#39;t tell if you&#39;re being serious. If so, that&#39;s a bizarre claim.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; James MacDonald (@JimMacDonaldMMA) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JimMacDonaldMMA\/status\/704061926956003330?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 28, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AmirPars_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@AmirPars_<\/a> That&#39;s an assumption. Dismissing all those people as mere fanboys is pure ad hominem. Besides, as annoying as actual fanboy<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; James MacDonald (@JimMacDonaldMMA) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JimMacDonaldMMA\/status\/704068459630612481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 28, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AmirPars_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@AmirPars_<\/a> atheists are, it&#39;s still bizarre to claim they&#39;re the worst twats on Twitter.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; James MacDonald (@JimMacDonaldMMA) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JimMacDonaldMMA\/status\/704068616048742400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 28, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AmirPars_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@AmirPars_<\/a> Are you familiar with civil discourse? You gave an opinion. Opinions can be challenged. Saying something is &quot;subjective &amp;<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; James MacDonald (@JimMacDonaldMMA) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JimMacDonaldMMA\/status\/704071762749878274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 28, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AmirPars_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@AmirPars_<\/a> You&#39;re only making yourself look silly here, Amir. If your response to polite disagreement is blocking, I clearly misjudged you.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; James MacDonald (@JimMacDonaldMMA) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JimMacDonaldMMA\/status\/704072771840696321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 28, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>When Milo Yiannopoulos agrees with me on an issue, I am never in any doubt that our worldviews\u00a0could scarcely be further apart. Consequently, I don\u2019t hesitate to criticize him when he inevitably says something profoundly stupid. I should be equally critical of liberals. Endorsing terms like \u201cthe regressive left\u201d shouldn\u2019t give anyone license\u00a0to behave appallingly, yet I don\u2019t think I\u2019m the only one who is hesitant to criticize individuals who agree with me on a pet issue. We only do ourselves a disservice when we fail to be even-handed.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When I first considered weighing in on the frustrating debate between Sam Harris and Maryam Namazie, I intended to try&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":75,"featured_media":75,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,4,6,9,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-74","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-atheism","category-featured","category-secularism","category-skepticism","category-social-justice"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/75"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=74"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/75"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=74"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=74"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/flyingscotsman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=74"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}