{"id":468,"date":"2013-02-21T10:17:00","date_gmt":"2013-02-21T15:17:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/dangeroustalk\/?p=468"},"modified":"2013-02-21T10:17:00","modified_gmt":"2013-02-21T15:17:00","slug":"religion-is-comfortable-with-science-only-to-a-point","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/dangeroustalk\/2013\/02\/21\/religion-is-comfortable-with-science-only-to-a-point\/","title":{"rendered":"Religion Is Comfortable With Science\u2026 Only To A Point"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Whenever the debate arises between science and religion, there are generally liberal theistic believers who come forward to express their support for science while touting their religious identity. These liberal theistic believers then declare that there is no debate between science and religion. They are wrong!<\/p>\n<p>For the sake of argument, let\u2019s not even discuss religious fundamentalists who support creationism, reject the big bang, deny climate change, etc. Liberal theistic believers rightfully agree with us that those believers are a problem and for those fundamentalist believers religion really is in conflict with science.<\/p>\n<p>My point today is with the theistic believers who agree with us on all those things and then claiming that because they agree with us on those scientific issues, that they support science.\u00a0 Yet these same liberal believers still believe in a deity on insufficient evidence. They might even believe in a small handful of other ridiculous religious beliefs too. I want to talk about theistic believers who abandon science when science doesn\u2019t support their religious beliefs.<\/p>\n<p>When you think about it that way, these liberal theistic believers aren\u2019t much different from their fundamentalist counterparts. It isn\u2019t a matter of whether they support science or not, but rather at what point they stop supporting science in favor of superstition. All theists abandon science at some point. It is just a matter of which point they choose to reject the scientific method.<\/p>\n<p>Yes there are great scientists who belief in God. There are even some who believe that a first century carpenter performed miracles and rose from the dead. There is no doubt that these great scientists are great at the science they do, but when it comes to the religious beliefs they hold, they just aren\u2019t applying the scientific method. They have not tested these fanciful claims nor is there any valid evidence these religious claims. These religious claims can\u2019t be peer reviewed either. The fact is that these religious scientists abandon science when it conflicts with their religious beliefs just as fundamentalists do. Again, it is just a matter of degrees.<\/p>\n<p>Don\u2019t get me wrong, I am glad that there are theistic believers accept the science of evolution, the big bang, and climate change, but there is more to science than just a handful of scientific facts. 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These liberal theistic believers then declare that there is no debate between science and religion. 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