{"id":1350,"date":"2014-05-07T13:11:10","date_gmt":"2014-05-07T17:11:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/dangeroustalk\/?p=1350"},"modified":"2014-05-07T13:11:10","modified_gmt":"2014-05-07T17:11:10","slug":"ceremonial-prayer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/dangeroustalk\/2014\/05\/07\/ceremonial-prayer\/","title":{"rendered":"Ceremonial Prayer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/dangeroustalk\/files\/2014\/05\/prayer-meeting.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-1351\" alt=\"prayer meeting\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/dangeroustalk\/files\/2014\/05\/prayer-meeting-300x168.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/dangeroustalk\/files\/2014\/05\/prayer-meeting-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/dangeroustalk\/files\/2014\/05\/prayer-meeting-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/dangeroustalk\/files\/2014\/05\/prayer-meeting.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy claimed that prayer (even explicitly Christian prayer) is not really religious; it is just ceremonial. It is merely a tradition and has no real religious purpose.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s funny, because there seems to be a whole lot of religious people who seem to care an awful lot about a merely ceremonial prayer. If these prayers are not an explicit endorsement of religion, then why does it even matter at all? Why are religious believers so hell bent on putting these prayers before government meetings and why are non-Christians fighting against prayers that don\u2019t really mean anything at all?<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I\u2019m surprised more fundamentalists aren\u2019t offended by Justice Kennedy\u2019s claim that these prayers are merely \u201cceremonial.\u201d Isn\u2019t that blasphemy? Keep in mind that fundamentalist Christians were not shy about their outrage even toward Jesus\u2019s wife, Sarah Palin when she equated Baptism with torture. Interestingly enough, she did it for a sound-byte and doesn\u2019t even agree with her own statement. Kennedy does stand behind his view that pray before government meetings aren\u2019t really religious.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, if prayers before meetings were religious, then Kennedy would have to concede that they violate the Establishment Clause and he would be forced to have ruled against these prayers. But Kennedy is an old fashioned guy who likes tradition. He doesn\u2019t see the harm in it, so he would rather find some way of just keeping the \u201cceremonial\u201d tradition.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, there is harm in this type of thing. These types of prayers are a way to exclude people and to make them feel like outsiders to their own government. If I had a grievance that I wanted to take up with this legislative body, this type of prayer would set the tone against me right from the start because I am not a Christian. This type of prayer turns our legislatures into Christian-only churches where other people are allowed, but not really welcome. 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