{"id":881,"date":"2008-04-03T09:30:00","date_gmt":"2008-04-03T09:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2008\/04\/03\/the-other-problem-of-evil\/"},"modified":"2008-04-03T09:30:00","modified_gmt":"2008-04-03T09:30:00","slug":"the-other-problem-of-evil","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2008\/04\/03\/the-other-problem-of-evil\/","title":{"rendered":"The other &#8220;problem of evil&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Sometimes, when presented with the problem of evil (for example, in the form of my &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/stephenlaw.blogspot.com\/search\/label\/The%20God%20of%20Eth\">God of Eth<\/a>&#8221; article [<a href=\"http:\/\/stephenlaw.blogspot.com\/2007\/03\/god-of-eth.html\">original here<\/a>]), believers respond by saying &#8220;Well, ok, that&#8217;s a problem for theists. But of course <span style=\"font-style: italic\">it&#8217;s just as much a problem for atheists<\/span>. Atheists need to deal with the problem of evil too.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This had me scratching my head for a while. If you don&#8217;t believe in an all-powerful, all-good God, well, evil is not a &#8220;problem&#8221; for your position, is it? Atheists don&#8217;t face the &#8220;problem of evil&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>But then I realized that, actually, two quite different problems are being run together here.<\/p>\n<p>There is of course <span style=\"font-style: italic\">a &#8220;<\/span>problem of evil&#8221; that atheists face: the problem of how to deal, psychologically, with evil &#8211; with the sheer quantity of suffering, and also moral depravity, that so many of us have to endure.<\/p>\n<p>The believer can find solace in their faith, of course. But to what can the atheist turn?<\/p>\n<p>So yes, atheists face this &#8220;problem of evil&#8221;. But it&#8217;s a different problem. The right response to this move, I think, is to say that <span style=\"font-style: italic\">the theist has simply changed the subject<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>They are trying to suggest, of course, that as the &#8220;problem of evil&#8221; is just as much a problem for atheists, it doesn&#8217;t support atheism over theism.<\/p>\n<p>But, as an argument against he truth of theism, the &#8220;problem of evil&#8221; is not a problem for atheism at all. Vast quantities of evil are evidence against the all-powerful-and-all-good-god hypothesis.  They are not evidence against the no-god hypothesis.<\/p>\n<p>True, atheists also face the question &#8211; how, if at all, are we to deal psychologically with evil? And it&#8217;s true that they don&#8217;t have a pat answer available to them in the way the theist does.<\/p>\n<p>But even if the correct answer is: actually, many of us <span style=\"font-style: italic\">cannot<\/span> deal psychologically with such evil without the support of religious faith, <span style=\"font-style: italic\">that would not give even one ounce of support to the claim that what the faithful believe is actually true.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sometimes, when presented with the problem of evil (for example, in the form of my &#8220;God of Eth&#8221; article [original here]), believers respond by saying &#8220;Well, ok, that&#8217;s a problem for theists. But of course it&#8217;s just as much a problem for atheists. Atheists need to deal with the problem of evil too.&#8221; This had [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[37],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-881","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-problem-of-evil"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/881","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/13"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=881"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/881\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=881"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=881"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=881"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}