{"id":822,"date":"2008-07-29T08:37:00","date_gmt":"2008-07-29T08:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2008\/07\/29\/syes-argument\/"},"modified":"2008-07-29T08:37:00","modified_gmt":"2008-07-29T08:37:00","slug":"syes-argument","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2008\/07\/29\/syes-argument\/","title":{"rendered":"Sye&#8217;s argument"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Sye said\u2026.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">&#8220;Look folks, whether you agree with me or not, 220 posts ago, I asked how universal, abstract, invariants such as the laws of logic make sense in the atheist worldview. Don&#8217;t you find it odd that no one has answered that yet?&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The reason I have not answered this question that is that I refused to be deflected from the specific issue at hand, which is to push home my conclusion that your original argument, as presented on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.proofthatgodexists.org\/\">your website<\/a>, is not a &#8220;proof&#8221; of God\u2019s existence \u2013 certainly, it does not establish its conclusion beyond all, or even reasonable, doubt.<\/p>\n<p>I have, several times, explained that whether or not I am justified in using logic is irrelevant.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s why. We both agree that a valid argument containing a contentious and unargued-for premise does not establish the truth of its conclusion. Now, even if, as an atheist, I am not justified in believing this, you (by your own lights) are justified in believing it, so, given your original argument does indeed contain a contentious and unargued-for premise, you are justified in supposing your argument fails to establish the truth of its conclusion.<\/p>\n<p>You need to address this specific point Sye.<\/p>\n<p>Now to my views about logic\u2026 see following post.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sye said\u2026. &#8220;Look folks, whether you agree with me or not, 220 posts ago, I asked how universal, abstract, invariants such as the laws of logic make sense in the atheist worldview. Don&#8217;t you find it odd that no one has answered that yet?&#8221; The reason I have not answered this question that is that [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[68],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-822","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-sinner-ministries-proof-of-the-existence-of-god"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/822","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/13"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=822"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/822\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=822"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=822"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=822"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}