{"id":783,"date":"2008-08-23T12:23:00","date_gmt":"2008-08-23T12:23:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2008\/08\/23\/gary-glitter-what-do-we-do-about-paedophiles\/"},"modified":"2008-08-23T12:23:00","modified_gmt":"2008-08-23T12:23:00","slug":"gary-glitter-what-do-we-do-about-paedophiles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2008\/08\/23\/gary-glitter-what-do-we-do-about-paedophiles\/","title":{"rendered":"Gary Glitter &#8211; what do we do about paedophiles?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Gary Glitter is back in the UK after completing his sentence for having engaged in sex with under age girls back in Thailand. The tabloids are, of course, having a field day, unleashing all the venom and bile they can muster against this convicted &#8220;paedo&#8221; and &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mirror.co.uk\/news\/top-stories\/2008\/08\/22\/paedophile-pop-star-gary-glitter-back-in-the-uk-115875-20707465\/\">ageing pervert<\/a>&#8220;.<\/p>\n<p>I have been thinking about how we should deal with paedophiles recently, and have come to a few surprising conclusion (that&#8217;s to say, I surprised myself). Let&#8217;s start with a thought experiment.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">A THOUGHT EXPERIMENT<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Suppose that you find yourself inhabiting a world in which mature responsible adults have the bodies of children, and immature, vulnerable children have the bodies of mature adults.<\/p>\n<p>Gary Glitter would find himself very much at home if born into such a such a world. He can have consensual sex with those he finds sexually attractive.<\/p>\n<p>I, on the other hand, am in trouble. I find myself sexually attracted exclusively to individuals who are immature and vulnerable and certainly not in a position to enter responsibly into any sort sexual relationship. Of course, that&#8217;s not my fault. But what if I nevertheless act on this impulse? Then I have done something very wrong, undoubtedly. Something for which I can be blamed.<\/p>\n<p>But (and here is the key question), finding myself born into such a world, <span style=\"font-style: italic\">could I be sure that I would not ever succumb to temptation?<\/span> Actually, I couldn&#8217;t be sure. My drive to have sex with adult-bodied women is very strong, and I am not sure I could succeed in suppressing it over an entire lifetime. Put me in a situation where I am surrounded by such adult-bodied, yet immature and vulnerable individuals, could I be trusted? Or would my resolve gradually weaken? Might I begin to find all sorts of justifications for having the occasional grope, etc.? Let&#8217;s not forget how many Catholic priests have succumbed.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d like to believe that, stuck with those desires in that situation, I would be strong and virtuous. But I am aware that I may well flatter myself. Fact is, I wouldn&#8217;t trust me.<\/p>\n<p>So here are some of the conclusions I am inclined to draw:<\/p>\n<p>The fact that I inhabit a world where my sexual desires can be satisfied without harming the innocent and vulnerable, whereas Gary Glitter does not, <span style=\"font-style: italic\">is a matter of my good fortune and his Glitter&#8217;s bad luck<\/span>. There&#8217;s nothing much that either one of us can do about our desires, or about the kind of world we find ourselves in.<\/p>\n<p>And we can&#8217;t be held morally responsible, surely, for things that are outside our control.<\/p>\n<p>Glitter can control his damaging <span style=\"font-style: italic\">behaviour<\/span>, of course. And he has failed to do so. That&#8217;s terrible. However, I&#8217;m not at all confident I, or indeed, many of us, would fare any better in controlling our behaviour, were we in his position.<\/p>\n<p>But then there is a question about just <span style=\"font-style: italic\">how<\/span> culpable he is. Blameworthiness is a matter of degree, and I am suggesting that, while blameworthy, he may not be nearly as blameworthy as most of us suppose (the issue here is <a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/moral-luck\/#1\">moral luck<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>However, while I don&#8217;t blame Glitter for his desires, and while I find it difficult to get too judgemental about his behaviour, I&#8217;m also inclined to think that paedophiles, <span style=\"font-style: italic\">if<\/span> innately stuck with that desire, <span style=\"font-style: italic\">are unlikely ever to be &#8220;cured&#8221;<\/span> (anymore than I could be &#8220;cured&#8221; of my desire for adult women, were I to find myself in a situation where that was deemed aberrant).<\/p>\n<p>My best guess is that most of those sexually attracted primarily to children <span style=\"font-style: italic\">will always pose a very significant risk to children. <\/span>No matter how good and sincere their avowed intentions might be right now (compare the decision to pack in smoking: it&#8217;s often sincerely and passionately declared, but rarely followed through).<\/p>\n<p>In which case, while they might not <span style=\"font-style: italic\">deserve<\/span> a lifetime&#8217;s incarceration or very close monitoring and control, that <span style=\"font-style: italic\">may nevertheless be justified.<\/p>\n<p><\/span>I am also inclined to think that merely being found in possession of child pornography warrants the imposition of a lifetime&#8217;s close control and supervision. Whether <span style=\"font-style: italic\">deserved<\/span> or not.<span style=\"font-style: italic\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gary Glitter is back in the UK after completing his sentence for having engaged in sex with under age girls back in Thailand. The tabloids are, of course, having a field day, unleashing all the venom and bile they can muster against this convicted &#8220;paedo&#8221; and &#8220;ageing pervert&#8220;. 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