{"id":668,"date":"2009-01-30T15:54:00","date_gmt":"2009-01-30T15:54:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2009\/01\/30\/sye-is-back-and-telling-fibs\/"},"modified":"2009-01-30T15:54:00","modified_gmt":"2009-01-30T15:54:00","slug":"sye-is-back-and-telling-fibs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2009\/01\/30\/sye-is-back-and-telling-fibs\/","title":{"rendered":"Sye is back – and telling fibs?"},"content":{"rendered":"

If you were reading this blog last July\/August you will remember a very, very long exchange between myself and Sye, of Sinner Ministries<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Sye has a “proof” of God which is based on “presuppositonal apologetics”. We spent ages – two or three weeks and over 30 main posts – slowly and carefully unpacking Sye’s arguments and rispostes, until, eventually, he was left with nowhere to run.<\/p>\n

I kind of enjoyed doing it, but some of you got highly irritated, I know.<\/p>\n

Anyway, the 30 odd posts can be found listed under “sinner ministries” on my sidebar menu.<\/p>\n

Well, Sye now turns up on the debunking atheists<\/a> website where he is peddling the exact same arguments, winding people up all over again.<\/p>\n

When one commentator mentioned that I had dealt with a point Sye raised on this blog, Sye, I’m told, said:<\/p>\n

“I guess you haven’t been paying attention Dale. We discussed my time at Stephen Law’s blog at an earlier entry here, and also the fact that he never once said how his own wordlview accounted for the universal, abstract, invariant laws of logic.”<\/span><\/p>\n

Sye later added:<\/p>\n

“He did not want to reveal his own worldview, because he did not want to commit to a view he knew I would dismantle.”<\/span><\/p>\n

Notice how Sye seems actually to be presenting himself as the victor<\/span> in our discussions. He’s suggesting that he<\/span> cornered me<\/span>.<\/p>\n

Now some of you may remember that I did in fact offer not one but three<\/span> different atheist-friendly views of logic, not one of which Sye was able to refute. If you want to count them, they are here<\/a>, here<\/a> and (Quinean one, from my book) here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

It’s pretty difficult to avoid the conclusion that Sye is just telling a barefaced lie here and hoping no one will notice (Sye’s lying for Jesus, I guess?)<\/p>\n

Care to come over here and explain yourself Sye?<\/p>\n

If you want to check out what Sye’s up to now see the debunking atheism thread here<\/a> (it’s huge – you need to scroll down and then hit “newest” to reach the end).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

If you were reading this blog last July\/August you will remember a very, very long exchange between myself and Sye, of Sinner Ministries. Sye has a “proof” of God which is based on “presuppositonal apologetics”. We spent ages – two or three weeks and over 30 main posts – slowly and carefully unpacking Sye’s arguments […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[68],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-668","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-sinner-ministries-proof-of-the-existence-of-god"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/668","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/13"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=668"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/668\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=668"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=668"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=668"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}