{"id":649,"date":"2009-02-13T11:19:00","date_gmt":"2009-02-13T11:19:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2009\/02\/13\/school-defends-stance-on-girl-who-told-classmate-she-would-go-to-hell\/"},"modified":"2009-02-13T11:19:00","modified_gmt":"2009-02-13T11:19:00","slug":"school-defends-stance-on-girl-who-told-classmate-she-would-go-to-hell","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2009\/02\/13\/school-defends-stance-on-girl-who-told-classmate-she-would-go-to-hell\/","title":{"rendered":"School defends stance on girl who told classmate she would &#8220;go to hell&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Interesting <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ekklesia.co.uk\/node\/8652\">article in Ekklesia<\/a>. It&#8217;s hard to comment, though, without more information.<\/p>\n<p>[pasted in below]<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style:italic\">The head teacher of a Devon school has defended its actions in relation to the mother of a young child who upset a classmate by telling her that she would &#8220;go to hell&#8221; if she did not believe in God and Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>Gary Read, head teacher of Landscore Primary School, Threshers, in Credition, says he spoke &#8220;respectfully&#8221; to parent Jennie Cain &#8211; also the school receptionist &#8211; after her daughter had made the remark, and after the child herself was told it was inappropriate.<\/p>\n<p>Mrs Cain, who says her five-year-old&#8217;s religious beliefs are &#8220;not being respected&#8221; is being backed by Christian campaigners who say that this is another case of &#8220;persecution&#8221; against Christians.<\/p>\n<p>But the school strongly denies this. Its governors are also challenging Mrs Cain over remarks she made about it&#8217;s handling of the issue in an email sent to friends, which has been forwarded to them.<\/p>\n<p>Mrs Cain has not been suspended or disciplined, but she did not go into school yesterday after the publicity.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Read, the headteacher, explained: &#8220;We have 271 children in our school from a diversity of backgrounds&#8230; We encourage children to discuss their beliefs. What we do not condone is one child frightening a six-year-old with the prospect of &#8216;going to hell&#8217; if she does not believe in God.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He added: &#8220;\u201cWe are a very, very open school and are in no way intimidating people. Unfortunately the context of the conversation between the two girls had a religious nature, but it could have been over any issue. When one pupil is upset by another and is crying, we take action.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn absolutely no way are we trying to suppress discussion or make it difficult for pupils to discuss or express faith. The school has had a lot of support from teachers and parents.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Many media reports of the incident have so far downplayed the question of offence and fright, concentrating on allegations that the school told off the child for &#8220;talking about God&#8221; &#8211; the headline in the Exeter Express and Echo this morning.<\/p>\n<p>The Telegraph reported the incident yesterday but made no reference to the &#8220;going to hell&#8221; remark. The exact wording of the conversation is now being disputed.<\/p>\n<p>Archbishop of York John Sentamu has weighed into the dispute in support of the parent. And MP Ann Widdicombe, a convert from Anglicanism to Catholicism, has referred to the schools&#8217;s actions as &#8220;Christianophobia&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>But Simon Barrow of the religion and society thinktank Ekklesia commented: &#8220;Before shouting &#8216;persecution&#8217; Christians need to reflect much more seriously on how they would feel if their children received similar treatment by non-believers or those of other faiths, and the school tolerated it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The issue here seems to be that one young child frightened another. It is surely right that behaviour of this kind is respectfully challenged. I am sure the great majority of Christian parents will want to encourage children to speak with love and respect, rather than condemnation, towards others.&#8221;<br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Notice how the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/newstopics\/religion\/4590870\/Primary-school-receptionist-facing-sack-after-daughter-talks-about-Jesus-to-classmate.html\">Telegraph&#8217;s report<\/a> omits one crucial detail &#8211; that the schools objection was not to a child talking to another about God and Jesus, but to one child scaring another to tears with threats of eternal damnation &#8211; thereby putting a  very different spin on the story.<\/p>\n<p>George Pitcher in The Telegraph backs Cain <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.telegraph.co.uk\/george_pitcher\/blog\/2009\/02\/12\/christians_need_protection_in_law\">here<\/a>. Note how Pitcher also misses (i) the key fact that the issue was a child being frightened to tears, (ii) that the school&#8217;s inquiry into possible misconduct has nothing to with Cain (the school receptionist) emailing other parents &#8220;for prayers&#8221;, but because she may have deliberately misrepresented to other parents what actually occurred.<\/p>\n<p>The omission of these details from its initial report suggests the <span style=\"font-style:italic\">Telegraph<\/span> author is either guilty of sloppy journalism, or else is deliberately seeking to spin this story into a case of &#8220;Christians being persecuted&#8221;. Ekklesia&#8217;s Christians, as usual, give a much more balanced account.<\/p>\n<p>The Archbishop of York picked up on the story as the <span style=\"font-style:italic\">Telegraph<\/span> reports <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/newstopics\/religion\/4604205\/Archbishop-speaks-in-support-of-primary-school-receptionist-facing-sack.html\">today.<\/a> This report does include the school&#8217;s side of the story, finally.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Interesting article in Ekklesia. It&#8217;s hard to comment, though, without more information. 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