{"id":517,"date":"2009-11-18T11:18:00","date_gmt":"2009-11-18T11:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2009\/11\/18\/a-terrible-justification-for-keeping-tftd-exclusively-religious\/"},"modified":"2009-11-18T11:18:00","modified_gmt":"2009-11-18T11:18:00","slug":"a-terrible-justification-for-keeping-tftd-exclusively-religious","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2009\/11\/18\/a-terrible-justification-for-keeping-tftd-exclusively-religious\/","title":{"rendered":"A terrible justification for keeping TFTD exclusively religious"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_M3KcDDpUUfo\/SwPav5ieKZI\/AAAAAAAAAX8\/gCKZk_aa9-4\/s1600\/1151.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;margin:0 0 10px 10px;cursor:pointer;cursor:hand;width: 400px;height: 311px\" src=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_M3KcDDpUUfo\/SwPav5ieKZI\/AAAAAAAAAX8\/gCKZk_aa9-4\/s400\/1151.jpg\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><br \/>The BBC Thought for The Day debate rumbles on. I notice that, according to an Ekklesia report, the BBC Trust defended the exclusively religious contribution to the TFTD programme against charges that this failed the test of &#8216;due&#8217; impartiality on this ground:<br \/><span style=\"font-style:italic\"><br \/>\u201cThe requirement of \u2018due\u2019 impartiality means that the approach required depends on audience expectations\u201d the BBC Trust report ruled. Since the audience expected a certain range of contributors, then the status quo was acceptable in the Trust&#8217;s opinion.<\/span> [Source <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ekklesia.co.uk\/node\/10630\">here<\/a>].<\/p>\n<p>But of course, <span style=\"font-style:italic\">if<\/span> this is the justification, it is terrible. Impartiality does <span style=\"font-style:italic\">not<\/span> depend on audience expectations in this way.<\/p>\n<p>Notice that, if it did, then a racist programme that excluded black contributors would qualify as &#8216;impartial&#8217; if the audience did not expect black people to appear.<\/p>\n<p>E.g. an openly white supremacist radio show that banned black people from appearing on it would qualify as showing &#8216;due&#8217; impartiality, so long as no one <span style=\"font-style:italic\">expected<\/span> black people to be on it, which of course they wouldn&#8217;t, if it was openly a white supremacist station.<\/p>\n<p>Or maybe &#8216;the audience expected a certain range of contributors&#8217; means, the audience believes non-religious contributors <span style=\"font-style:italic\">ought not<\/span> to appear (whether or not they think they will appear)? But then much of the BBCs audience does not believe that. So the BBC Trust&#8217;s justification (if accurately reported) is based on an obvious falsehood.<\/p>\n<p>But in any case, showing &#8216;due impartiality&#8217; clearly <span style=\"font-style:italic\">doesn&#8217;t<\/span> mean doing what your audience thinks you ought to do. Otherwise, in a profoundly racist country, a radio show that discriminated on the basis of race would still be showing &#8216;due impartiality&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>The summary report (available <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/bbctrust\/news\/press_releases\/november\/tftd.shtml\">here<\/a>) also says:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style:italic\">The ESC found that, given due impartiality is about what was said rather than  <br \/>rather than the contributor, the fact that the choice of contributors to <br \/>Thought for the Day is limited to those of religious faith does not in itself <br \/>amount to a breach of the guideline on impartiality.<\/span>  <\/p>\n<p>Oh, so a show that excludes black people, but does ensure the views expressed are balanced, shows &#8216;due impartiality&#8217;, then?<\/p>\n<p>The full report is available <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/bbctrust\/news\/press_releases\/november\/tftd.shtml\">here<\/a>, but I have not waded through all of it. I should say, in fairness to the BBC Trust, that, skimming it, I could not find anything to support the precise interpretation placed in it by first of my quotes (from Ekklesia), but then it is massive, and I am short on time&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Read Simon Barrow &#8211; a Christian &#8211; on TFTD <a href=\"http:\/\/ekklesia.co.uk\/node\/5160\">here<\/a>. Very good.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style:italic\">Illustration &#8211; example of an organization showing BBC Trust-style &#8216;due impartiality&#8217;?<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The BBC Thought for The Day debate rumbles on. I notice that, according to an Ekklesia report, the BBC Trust defended the exclusively religious contribution to the TFTD programme against charges that this failed the test of &#8216;due&#8217; impartiality on this ground:\u201cThe requirement of \u2018due\u2019 impartiality means that the approach required depends on audience expectations\u201d [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[62],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-517","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-secular-society"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/517","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/13"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=517"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/517\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=517"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=517"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=517"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}