{"id":27,"date":"2012-09-17T15:53:00","date_gmt":"2012-09-17T15:53:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2012\/09\/17\/dawkins-anti-semitic-says-chief-rabbi\/"},"modified":"2013-01-09T13:53:24","modified_gmt":"2013-01-09T13:53:24","slug":"dawkins-anti-semitic-says-chief-rabbi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/believingbullshit\/2012\/09\/17\/dawkins-anti-semitic-says-chief-rabbi\/","title":{"rendered":"Dawkins (book) Anti-Semitic, says Chief Rabbi"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">The Chief Rabbi, Jonathan Sacks, has accused Richard Dawkins of being anti-semitic (POST SCRIPT &#8211; sachs subsequently explains it&#8217;s Dawkins&#8217;s work he is calling profoundly antisemitic, not Dawkins the man). That&#8217;s a pretty serious charge (even qualified by my PS).<\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large\">In a BBC TV exchange (which <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/religion\/0\/19563336\" target=\"_blank\">you can view here<\/a>), Sacks says that a passage in Dawkins\u2019s book <em>The God Delusion<\/em> &#8211; in which Dawkins says that &#8220;the God of the Old Testament&#8221; is a &#8220;vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser&#8221; as well as &#8220;misogynist&#8221;, &#8220;homophobic&#8221;, &#8220;racist&#8221;, &#8220;pestilential&#8221; and &#8220;infanticidal&#8221; &#8211; is \u201cprofoundly anti-semitic\u201d. According to Sacks, the passage reflects a centuries-old anti-Jewish attitude.<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large\">Of course there are centuries-old anti-Jewish attitudes, but this is not an example.<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">According to Sacks, Dawkins has misunderstood those sections of the Hebrew Bible because he is a &#8220;Christian atheist&#8221; rather than a &#8220;Jewish atheist&#8221;.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.marsimport.com\/display_comic?ID=4498\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.johndavies.org\/pic-outrageoustales.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"282\" height=\"400\" align=\"RIGHT\" border=\"1\" hspace=\"10\" \/><\/a><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: large\">Dawkins, says Sacks, reads the Old Testament in an &#8220;adversarial way,&#8221; and that is &#8220;Christian&#8221; because Christianity\u2019s New Testament is supposed to have &#8220;gone one better&#8221; than the Old Testament.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large\">The truth, of course, is that Dawkins read the Old Testament in the way almost anyone one would coming to it for the first time, be they Christian or not. <\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">Alexander Waugh has a nice illustration of this in his book <span style=\"font-style: italic\">God &#8211; The Biography<\/span>: <span style=\"font-style: italic\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-size: large\"><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Randolph Churchill, son of Winston, had been annoying his friends by talking too much. They wagered he could not keep quiet for a week. Churchill, a keen gambler, thought he could win the bet by reading the Bible. But he didn&#8217;t last long. After a few pages, he was heard to exclaim, &#8220;God! God&#8217;s a shit!&#8221;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">Randolph didn&#8217;t come to the shocking conclusion that God&#8217;s a shit because he was already committed to reading the Old Testament in an anti-semitic way, but because that&#8217;s the conclusion that <em>any<\/em> sensible person would draw after reading it at first blush.\u00a0<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">In fact, Dawkins&#8217;s point is hardly new. As <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Is-God-Moral-Monster-Testament\/dp\/0801072751\" target=\"_blank\">the Christian Paul Copan points out<\/a>, Enlightenment thinkers like Robert Ingersoll were arguing back in the 19th Century that the God of the Old Testament was a cruel and unjust person, and that no one in their right mind could be a Christian as a result.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">As Sacks must surely be aware, Christians, just as much as Jews, have strived to show that the Old Testament God is not the monster he might seem to be.<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\"> They&#8217;re still at it. Here, for example, is <a href=\"http:\/\/carm.org\/god-of-old-testament-a-monster\" target=\"_blank\">a Christian Apologist<\/a> attacking Dawkins <em>et al<\/em> for concluding that the Old Testament God is a moral monster. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gotquestions.org\/Old-Testament-violence.html\" target=\"_blank\">Here&#8217;s<\/a> another. <a href=\"http:\/\/christiananswers.net\/q-aiia\/aiia-cruelgod.html\" target=\"_blank\">Here<\/a>&#8216;s another. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.raptureready.com\/soap\/jl1.html\" target=\"_blank\">Here<\/a>&#8216;s another. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.godandscience.org\/apologetics\/killergod.html#.UFc_-IWYkrA\" target=\"_blank\">Here<\/a>&#8216;s another.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">Clearly, it&#8217;s <em>not<\/em> pro-Christian prejudice that leads people to conclude the God of the Old Testament is a moral monster. Rightly or wrongly, it&#8217;s <em>the Old Testament itself <\/em>that leads them to draw that conclusion.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: large\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">Argue, if you wish (and as the above linked posts do), that those atheists who draw the conclusion that the God of the Old Testament is a monster are reading the OT texts in too literal a manner, or are at least unwarranted in drawing that conclusion based on the texts. But the atheist&#8217;s mistake, if there is one, is clearly <em>not<\/em> a product of some sort of deeply-ingrained, anti-semitic culture.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Chief Rabbi, Jonathan Sacks, has accused Richard Dawkins of being anti-semitic (POST SCRIPT &#8211; sachs subsequently explains it&#8217;s Dawkins&#8217;s work he is calling profoundly antisemitic, not Dawkins the man). That&#8217;s a pretty serious charge (even qualified by my PS). 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