{"id":3984,"date":"2016-09-25T23:55:32","date_gmt":"2016-09-26T04:55:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/?p=3984"},"modified":"2016-09-26T09:27:00","modified_gmt":"2016-09-26T14:27:00","slug":"friendly-fire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/2016\/09\/25\/friendly-fire\/","title":{"rendered":"Friendly Fire"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Skepticon is an annual convention which focuses on skepticism, atheism, and social justice. (Not necessarily in that order, of course.)<\/p>\n<p>Richard Carrier was one of the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Skepticon#History\">founding speakers<\/a> at Skepticon; he spoke at each the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Skepticon#Locations.2C_dates_and_speakers\">first six years<\/a> of the event. Here are a few examples of his work:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"&quot;Are Christians Delusional?&quot; Richard Carrier Skepticon 3\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/28PjVaW4kKI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Bayes Theorem: Key to the Universe, Richard Carrier Skepticon 4\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/HHIz-gR4xHo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Miracles and Historical Method    Richard Carrier    Skepticon 5\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/h6VFSYgSOs4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Good stuff, right? Eventually, though, the conference <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160707125206\/https:\/\/skepticon.org\/keeping-skepticon-safe-richard-carrier-to-be-banned\/\">unamicably parted ways<\/a> with one of their only perennial speakers:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Keeping Skepticon Safe: Richard Carrier to be Banned <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/yTUXSIidbL\">https:\/\/t.co\/yTUXSIidbL<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/skepticon?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#skepticon<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/ftbullies?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#ftbullies<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Atheist Revolution (@vjack) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/vjack\/status\/745385853858480128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 21, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Instead of privately contacting Dr. Carrier, the folks at Skepticon made a public show of banning him from the event, for the sake of &#8220;attendees&#8217; well being and comfort&#8221; which was allegedly &#8220;put at unacceptable risk by Carrier&#8217;s presence.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This has turned out to be a costly mistake, as the conference is now defending itself against a libel suit from Dr. Carrier, as detailed by Hemant Mehta:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">.<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hemantmehta?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@hemantmehta<\/a>: Dr. Richard Carrier Has Sued Several Atheists and Their Blogging Networks on Charges of Defamati&#8230; <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/WvZube3MVh\">https:\/\/t.co\/WvZube3MVh<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Patheos Nonreligious (@PatheosNonrelig) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PatheosNonrelig\/status\/779863334191595520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 25, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In the age of digital media, this lawsuit\u00a0will inevitably result in more public scrutiny of the various allegations against Dr. Carrier, along with an outpouring of support for Skepticon and the other defendants. Partisans will dig in on all sides, legal defense funds will be raised,\u00a0and in the end, a few lawyers will be enriched and rather few minds will be changed. All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again.<\/p>\n<p>Last month, David Smalley (whom I first encountered at Skepticon) asked us to contemplate what is killing the atheist movement:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">#259 &#8211; What&#39;s Killing the Atheist Movement?: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/iSFoaCMtch\">https:\/\/t.co\/iSFoaCMtch<\/a> via <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/YouTube?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@YouTube<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Dogma Debate (@DogmaDebate) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DogmaDebate\/status\/767240398964084736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">August 21, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>From here, it certainly looks like we are killing ourselves.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Skepticon is an annual convention which focuses on skepticism, atheism, and social justice. 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