{"id":3865,"date":"2016-05-17T16:20:31","date_gmt":"2016-05-17T21:20:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/?p=3865"},"modified":"2016-05-17T13:40:26","modified_gmt":"2016-05-17T18:40:26","slug":"clinton-vs-sanders-toss-ups","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/2016\/05\/17\/clinton-vs-sanders-toss-ups\/","title":{"rendered":"Clinton vs. Sanders: Toss-Up Turnout"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A recurring argument I&#8217;ve heard (several times, in various ways)\u00a0from Sanders supporters runs something like this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hillary Clinton&#8217;s historically high unfavorables will depress turnout among Democratic base voters in the general election, especially the progressive wing of the party. We need someone like Bernie Sanders to generate unprecedented turnout among hitherto underrepresented electoral constituencies in order to win the White House in 2016.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It is a plausible enough argument<strong>\u2014<\/strong>especially early on in the primaries<strong>\u2014<\/strong>but by now we should already know whether it has proven true when tested in the field in states where actual Democratic voters had the chance to actually cast votes. If the argument is sound, we should expect that Clinton will have been swamped by an influx of Sanders voters in the relatively few swing states which will most likely decide the presidential election this fall.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3866\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3866\" style=\"width: 813px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-3866 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2016\/05\/toss-ups.png\" alt=\"Swing states map\" width=\"813\" height=\"501\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2016\/05\/toss-ups.png 813w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2016\/05\/toss-ups-300x185.png 300w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2016\/05\/toss-ups-768x473.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 813px) 100vw, 813px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3866\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Swing states map via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.270towin.com\/\">270toWin<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The &#8220;swingingest&#8221; states this year are (from west to east) Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire. Here is what the primaries and caucuses looked like, in chronological order:<\/p>\n<table style=\"height: 581px\" width=\"666\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: left\" width=\"64\"><strong>Date <\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: left\" width=\"102\"><strong>State<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center\" width=\"128\"><strong>Contest type<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\" width=\"71\"><strong>Clinton<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\" width=\"71\"><strong>Sanders<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>01-Feb<\/td>\n<td>Iowa<\/td>\n<td>Semi-open caucus<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 701<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 697<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>09-Feb<\/td>\n<td>New Hampshire<\/td>\n<td>Semi-closed primary<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 95,324<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 152,181<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>20-Feb<\/td>\n<td>Nevada<\/td>\n<td>Closed caucus<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 6,316<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 5,678<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>01-Mar<\/td>\n<td>Colorado<\/td>\n<td>Closed caucus<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 49,789<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 72,846<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>01-Mar<\/td>\n<td>Virginia<\/td>\n<td>Open primary<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 503,358<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 275,507<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>15-Mar<\/td>\n<td>Florida<\/td>\n<td>Closed primary<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1,101,414<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 568,839<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>15-Mar<\/td>\n<td>Ohio<\/td>\n<td>Semi-open primary<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 696,681<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 535,395<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>15-Mar<\/td>\n<td>North Carolina<\/td>\n<td>Semi-closed primary<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 622,919<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 467,143<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>05-Apr<\/td>\n<td>Wisconsin<\/td>\n<td>Open primary<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 432,767<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 567,936<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>26-Apr<\/td>\n<td>Pennsylvania<\/td>\n<td>Closed primary<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 918,694<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 719,960<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <strong>4,427,963<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: right\"><strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 3,366,182<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Clinton is driving far more voters to the polls overall; the only primary contest states where Sanders clearly outperforms her are New Hampshire (4 electoral votes) and Wisconsin (10 electoral votes). Arguably, Sanders could turn out more people in Colorado as well, but caucus turnout is not a reliable indicator of voter turnout at the ballot box, as we saw dramatically demonstrated in the bizarre case of <a href=\"http:\/\/thehill.com\/blogs\/ballot-box\/dem-primaries\/279468-clinton-wins-nebraska-primary-but-gets-no-delegates\">Nebraska<\/a>, where they held both <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/elections\/results\/nebraska\">caucuses<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/2016-election\/results\/map\/president\/nebraska\">primaries<\/a> this year.<\/p>\n<p>Turning out the base will indeed form\u00a0a crucial component of the 2016 presidential contest, especially in high-population swing states such as Florida (29 electoral votes), Pennsylvania (20 electoral votes), Ohio (18 electoral votes), North Carolina (15 electoral votes), and Virginia (13 electoral votes). The data do not support the hypothesis that the Bernie Sanders movement has created a formidable turnout machine in those crucial areas.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A recurring argument I&#8217;ve heard (several times, in various ways)\u00a0from Sanders supporters runs something like this: Hillary Clinton&#8217;s historically high&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":23,"featured_media":3866,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[43,18,10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3865","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-current-events","category-damned-lies-and-statistics","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3865","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/23"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3865"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3865\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3867,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3865\/revisions\/3867"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3866"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3865"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3865"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3865"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}