{"id":2273,"date":"2013-12-04T16:20:58","date_gmt":"2013-12-04T22:20:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/?p=2273"},"modified":"2013-12-04T16:05:59","modified_gmt":"2013-12-04T22:05:59","slug":"ses1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/2013\/12\/04\/ses1\/","title":{"rendered":"Secularism and the Eternal Schism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Does anyone recall the atheist <a href=\"http:\/\/www.edge.org\/discourse\/accomodationism.html\" target=\"_blank\">accommodation wars<\/a> from a few years back? I was a conscientious objector at the time, refusing to heed the call to battle, but fellow Skeptic Ink writer Russell Blackford was <a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/hellfireclub\/2013\/03\/23\/what-do-i-mean-by-accommodationism\/\" target=\"_blank\">down in the trenches<\/a>, striving to beat back the accommdationist armies with a fusillade of polite and reasoned discourse. While the argument started out\u00a0on the particular issue of how to deal with anti-science and creationism in particular, it eventually morphed into a more general set of arguments about tone and tactics, as illustrated\u00a0in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/friendlyatheist\/2010\/08\/24\/the-angry-atheists-vs-the-accommodationists\/\" target=\"_blank\">this post<\/a> over at Friendly Atheist.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>There are those who have theorized that the battle lines drawn and alliances assembled back then have largely carried over to the ongoing debate about the optimal relationship between skepticism and feminism, but I&#8217;m not going to go into that here. What I am going to do instead is go way back to the very first accommodationist debates in anglophone secularism, which arose between factions of the British freethought movement around 150 years ago. Right around the time that the Americans were gearing up for the Civil War,\u00a0the secular movement in Britain was undergoing a far more civil conflict between the militant atheist wing lead by <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Charles_Bradlaugh\" target=\"_blank\">Charles Bradlaugh<\/a> and the moderate secularists lead by <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/George_Holyoake\" target=\"_blank\">George Holyoake<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Here is how\u00a0Edward Royle characterized the schism in <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=XgkNAQAAIAAJ&amp;pg=PA281\" target=\"_blank\">Victorian Infidels: The Origins of the British Secularist Movement, 1791-1866<\/a>\u00a0(pg 280):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/12\/Victorian-Infidels-pg280.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2275\" alt=\"Victorian Infidels pg280\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/12\/Victorian-Infidels-pg280.png\" width=\"519\" height=\"313\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/12\/Victorian-Infidels-pg280.png 519w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/12\/Victorian-Infidels-pg280-300x180.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 519px) 100vw, 519px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Emphasis mine. Royle also comments on this split in his follow up work, <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=pQkNAQAAIAAJ&amp;pg=PA118\" target=\"_blank\">Radicals, Secularists, and Republicans: Popular Freethought in Britain, 1866-1915<\/a>\u00a0(pg 120):<br \/>\n\u00a0<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/12\/Radicals-Secularists-and-Republicans-pg-120.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2274\" alt=\"Radicals, Secularists, and Republicans pg 120\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/12\/Radicals-Secularists-and-Republicans-pg-120.png\" width=\"507\" height=\"159\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/12\/Radicals-Secularists-and-Republicans-pg-120.png 507w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/12\/Radicals-Secularists-and-Republicans-pg-120-300x94.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 507px) 100vw, 507px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>On one side we have the more militant atheists who want to aggressively confront religious belief, and on the other side we have those who are willing to work with people of faith to further mutual secular goals. Does this sound familiar?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Does anyone recall the atheist accommodation wars from a few years back? I was a conscientious objector at the time,&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":23,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2273","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-movement"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2273","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/23"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2273"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2273\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2273"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2273"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2273"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}