{"id":1607,"date":"2013-05-26T22:22:52","date_gmt":"2013-05-27T03:22:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/?p=1607"},"modified":"2013-05-28T12:42:10","modified_gmt":"2013-05-28T17:42:10","slug":"avfm-a-hate-site","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/2013\/05\/26\/avfm-a-hate-site\/","title":{"rendered":"AVfM &#8211; A Hate Site?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve heard it said often enough that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.avoiceformen.com\/\">A Voice for Men<\/a> is a hate site, but usually the evidence for that claim doesn&#8217;t go any deeper than <a href=\"http:\/\/www.splcenter.org\/get-informed\/intelligence-report\/browse-all-issues\/2012\/spring\/misogyny-the-sites\">this link<\/a>.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 251px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSsmga_7uHSn-4RKxfQvnOrR9mg57_Tw5NETpDdzCzwXnL40A8Q\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSsmga_7uHSn-4RKxfQvnOrR9mg57_Tw5NETpDdzCzwXnL40A8Q\" width=\"251\" height=\"172\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The guy in the hood listens to AVfM radio<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>As a skeptic, I&#8217;m not about to outsource my evaluation to the SPLC, so I read up a bit on my own. \u00a0I found ample evidence of hatred against women, including this <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/david-futrelle\/elamonrottencroch\">damning sound clip<\/a> in which site founder Paul &#8220;Elam&#8221; makes the case for publishing personal information about women and stalking them on their way to work, by way of this <a href=\"http:\/\/register-her.com\/index.php?title=Main_Page\">affiliated website<\/a>\u00a0run by AVfM. So that&#8217;s fairly disturbing. Maybe Paul retracted this explicit call for doxxing and stalking at some point, and I just missed it. Regardless of retractions, the &#8220;Register Her&#8221; website calls for publicly shaming members of one gender, and <em>only<\/em> one gender, and I find it morally objectionable and personally revolting on those grounds alone.<\/p>\n<p>Then there is <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20120318072131\/http:\/\/www.avoiceformen.com\/mens-rights\/false-rape-culture\/jury-duty-at-a-rape-trial-acquit\/\">this piece<\/a>\u00a0from &#8220;Elam&#8221; arguing that all accused rapists should be acquitted. Notice that the original piece has been removed from the website, presumably because AVfM has some sense of shame. Again, maybe Paul publicly renounced this column and I missed it.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, we have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.avoiceformen.com\/feminism\/study-reveals-female-rape-victims-enjoyed-the-experience\/\">this steaming pile<\/a> of long-troll &#8216;satire&#8217; which is essentially an extended rape joke about citing your sources. Read it for yourself if you think I&#8217;m exaggerating.<\/p>\n<p>Notice that all three of these pieces are directly from the mouth of the website founder, not from anonymous troll commenters. As such, we have to ask the question, why would anyone willingly associate with this site, given that the site <em>founder<\/em> is so openly cavalier about stalking and rape?<\/p>\n<p>Please, if you can, explain that to me.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve heard it said often enough that A Voice for Men is a hate site, but usually the evidence for&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":23,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[39,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1607","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-masculism","category-movement"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1607","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/23"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1607"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1607\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1607"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1607"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1607"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}