{"id":1402,"date":"2013-04-09T09:19:33","date_gmt":"2013-04-09T14:19:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/?p=1402"},"modified":"2013-04-12T15:29:26","modified_gmt":"2013-04-12T20:29:26","slug":"support-camp-quest-oklahoma","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/2013\/04\/09\/support-camp-quest-oklahoma\/","title":{"rendered":"Support Camp Quest Oklahoma!"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_1403\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1403\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/04\/photo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1403\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/04\/photo.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"540\" height=\"716\" srcset=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/04\/photo.jpg 540w, https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/files\/2013\/04\/photo-226x300.jpg 226w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1403\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A precocious little scamp at Camp Quest Texas prepares for an amazing week<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>By now, you&#8217;ve probably heard about what happened at a Camp Quest Oklahoma <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/events\/307827616010656\/\">fundraiser<\/a> at a BBQ joint in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. Hemant <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/friendlyatheist\/2013\/04\/08\/camp-quest-oklahoma-planned-a-fundraiser-at-a-local-restaurant-tonight-but-the-christian-owner-is-refusing-to-work-with-them\/\">nailed it<\/a>, Brayton <a href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/FreethoughtBlogs\/~3\/24ciczOjCE0\/\">got constitutional<\/a> on it, <a href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/FreethoughtBlogs\/~3\/2su0r5zuyiI\/\">PZ<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wwjtd\/2013\/04\/camp-quest-oklahoma-kicked-out-of-their-own-fundraiser-by-christian-business-owner\/\">JT<\/a> got angry and vengeful about it. Everyone is doing their bit, reacting exactly as we&#8217;ve come to expect. Not wanting to deviate from form, myself,\u00a0I&#8217;m going to come in late to the game and ask everyone to calm down a bit and review a few facts that people have been consistently getting wrong in the comments.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Oklahoma Joe&#8217;s of Tulsa \/ Broken Arrow is <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OklahomaJoesBBQ\/status\/321454373433638912\">legally and financially distinct<\/a> from the original Oklahoma Joe&#8217;s of Kansas City. Please stop attacking the KC joint.<\/li>\n<li>Oral contracts are legally binding in the U.S. If you agree to host a fundraiser at a fixed percentage of certain receipts, and take monetary consideration from a number of patrons, having represented to them that they are there in part\u00a0for the sake of doing fundraising, you are legally obligated to follow through and pay up.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Breach of contract is a legally distinct issue from the laws governing public accommodations mentioned earlier by Ed Brayton. Even if Oklahoma Joe&#8217;s were completely cleared of any and\u00a0all\u00a0violations of anti-discrimination laws (which I consider a strong possibility)\u00a0they would nevertheless be in breach of contract for taking the patrons&#8217; money on a promise that they didn&#8217;t keep.<\/li>\n<li>Online overreaction is a demonstrably\u00a0effective way to generate more heat than light. Remember <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.oklahomaatheists.com\/2011\/11\/gelato-and-vengeance-best-served-cold.html\">Gelatogate<\/a>? Skepticon organizers had to live and work and continue building support within their (highly religious) local community after all that hullabaloo, and they were <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/atheism\/comments\/mn6g9\/official_update_skepticon_and_gelato_mio_andy_are\/\" target=\"_blank\">not particularly\u00a0thrilled<\/a> about some of the more over-the-top attacks from the keyboard warrior mob. &#8220;Fuck &#8217;em to the ground!&#8221; isn&#8217;t the message we need to be sending here. Or anywhere. PZ and JT, I&#8217;m looking at you. Berserker rage isn&#8217;t always the answer.<\/li>\n<li>There is an obvious way to channel our anger and\u00a0frustration into <em>positive change<\/em> in this situation, right now, without waiting to see whether a boycott backfires or a lawsuit pans out: <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/campquestoklahoma.org\/donate\/\" target=\"_blank\">DONATE TO CAMP QUEST OKLAHOMA<\/a><\/strong>.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>I&#8217;m immensely grateful for the massive amounts of exhausting work that the Camp Quest organizers and volunteers put in to give children like mine a week where they get to think freely, without the pressure of discrimination from our pervasively dogmatic culture. Let&#8217;s not allow religious bigotry or reactionary rhetoric get in the way of our ultimate goals.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By now, you&#8217;ve probably heard about what happened at a Camp Quest Oklahoma fundraiser at a BBQ joint in Broken&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":23,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,38],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1402","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-movement","category-support"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1402","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/23"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1402"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1402\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1402"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1402"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1402"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}