{"id":675,"date":"2013-04-30T08:00:52","date_gmt":"2013-04-30T13:00:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/?p=675"},"modified":"2013-04-30T12:22:19","modified_gmt":"2013-04-30T17:22:19","slug":"women-in-secularism-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/2013\/04\/women-in-secularism-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Women In Secularism 2, An Unsafe Place"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/25.media.tumblr.com\/1f2b43923abdf7eb16eb754270db6ed9\/tumblr_mm233qCDM61qcnn8do1_500.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"185\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Due to the alleged unsafe spaces and misogyny in the Atheist\/Skeptic community (?), the Center of Inquiry created <a title=\"Women in Secularism\" href=\"http:\/\/www.womeninsecularism.org\/\">Women in Secularism<\/a>, a supposedly safe place from harassment.<\/p>\n<p>Sadly, I&#8217;ve come to realize this isn&#8217;t true. <strong>Women in Secularism is an unsafe space where harassment is quite much tolerated and advocated for<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>How can I say such a thing? Well, taking a look at the <a title=\"Women in Secularism | Speakers\" href=\"http:\/\/www.womeninsecularism.org\/speakers.html\">WiS2 speakers<\/a>, you can find names such as <strong>Ophelia Benson<\/strong>, <strong>Melody Hensley<\/strong> and <strong>Stephanie Zvan<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>I find it strikingly odd that these three women -and others- have been very much vocal on their hate of a fellow Humanist, <strong>Justin Vacula<\/strong>, just because.<\/p>\n<p>Benson has been\u00a0<a title=\"That\u2019s something to look forward to\" href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/butterfliesandwheels\/2013\/01\/thats-something-to-look-forward-to\">campaigning<\/a> <a title=\"stochastic terrorism\" href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/butterfliesandwheels\/2013\/01\/thats-something-to-look-forward-to\/#comment-424862\">against<\/a> Justin for months in a hate-mongering fashion I have only seen in the most fundamentalist Islamists.<\/p>\n<p>She even <a title=\"Ophelia Benson and PZ Myers threaten me with expulsion from Women in Secularism 2\" href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/2013\/04\/28\/ophelia-benson-and-pz-myers-threaten-me-with-expulsion-from-women-in-seculaism-2\/\">threatened Justin to have him kicked<\/a> out of the conference if he tried to engage in rational dialogue (that&#8217;s stretching the &#8220;harassment&#8221; definition way too far, even by their ever-changing standards)! How is &#8220;<em>How, how are you doing?<\/em>&#8221; any sort of harassment, by any standard?<\/p>\n<p>But that was just the beginning.<\/p>\n<p>Zvan had yet to <a title=\"I Did What Now? The Lie Machine in Action\" href=\"http:\/\/www.freezepage.com\/1367270100TDAQFPVUZL\">come in and play the victim<\/a>, quoting a convenient part of a letter she sent to CFI&#8217;s president\u00a0<strong>Ron Lindsay<\/strong>, where she accused Justin of who-knows what and then went back to her drama queen role:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>On the other hand, if he attends, I will have a much less productive conference. Everything I do or say will be observed and reported on by a hostile party.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I understand why Zvan is so annoyed with the idea of having Justin at WiS2 &#8211; we&#8217;ve seen what is it like when an actual skeptic sees <a title=\"Science denialism at a skeptic conference\" href=\"skepticink.com\/incredulous\/2012\/12\/01\/science-denialism-at-a-skeptic-conference\/\">bullshit at a skeptic conference<\/a>! Yes, I guess reality-based criticism is bad for your productiveness&#8230; but I digress.<\/p>\n<p>In that same post, Zvan quoted Hensley as saying <a title=\"Reassurances\" href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/butterfliesandwheels\/2013\/01\/thats-something-to-look-forward-to\/#comment-424948\">this<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hi, this is Melody, the organizer of Women in Secularism. I can assure you that Women in Secularism is a safe place for everyone and I promise that every speaker and attendee will be taken care of. Comfort and safety is one of my biggest concerns.<\/p>\n<p>As some of you might know, I have been the victim of cyberstalking and online harassment and it has affected me greatly so I take this matter very seriously.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>You know what? I don&#8217;t believe so. Not for a second. I have a serious concern about Justin&#8217;s safety there and I have <a title=\"She said what now?\" href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/2013\/04\/29\/she-said-what-now\/\">serious reasons as to why<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p>Ignore for a second that <strong>three of the WiS2 speakers are creating a threatening and unwelcoming environment<\/strong> for Justin.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s go to the puppet-master, <strong>PZ Myers<\/strong>, who has <a title=\"Pre-emptive announcement\" href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/pharyngula\/2013\/04\/28\/pre-emptive-announcement\">weighed in<\/a> and is directing hate specifically towards Justin and &#8220;<em>his fellow travelers<\/em>&#8220;. \u00a0Let&#8217;s take a quick look at the perils of disagreeing with PZ Myers on anything and have him state at his blog (or one of those of his minions).<\/p>\n<p>You can be <a title=\"EllenBeth Wachs, PZ Myers, and the dongle joke\" href=\"http:\/\/uberfeminist.blogspot.com\/2013\/03\/ellenbeth-wachs-pz-myers-and-dongle-joke.html\">harassed<\/a>, you can <a title=\"FTB wants Thunderf00t \u2018drummed out of the community\u2019 and \u2018forever a pariah\u2019\" href=\"http:\/\/thunderf00tdotorg.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/10\/ftb-want-thunderf00t-drummed-out-of-the-community-and-forever-a-pariah\/\">loose your job<\/a>, you can be\u00a0<a title=\"Attacks on Stef McGraw\" href=\"http:\/\/phawrongula.wikia.com\/wiki\/Attacks_on_Stef_McGraw\">silenced<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0you can be <a title=\"Secular Shunning\" href=\"http:\/\/phawrongula.wikia.com\/wiki\/Secular_Shunning\">bullied<\/a>, just to name a few. And let&#8217;s not forget, Justin has already been a victim of these group of people, when he was <a title=\"Vacula Resigns - The Bullies Win this Round\" href=\"http:\/\/isgodasquirrel.blogspot.com\/2012\/10\/vacula-resigns-bullies-win-this-round.html\">forced to resign to\u00a0the position of co-chair for the SCA<\/a>, on baseless made-up grounds!<\/p>\n<p><strong>They hate his guts<\/strong>, and <a title=\"Help send Justin Vacula to Women in Secularism 2!\" href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/justinvacula\/2013\/01\/19\/help-send-me-to-women-in-secularism-2\/\">he&#8217;s going to the lions&#8217; den<\/a>, a conference of theirs where <strong>speakers are already spitting hate and venom to his presence there<\/strong>, having their fandom ready to attack and be hostile and aggresive, and WiS2 organizers seem to be looking the other way.<\/p>\n<p>I fear for his safety and that of &#8220;<em>his fellow travelers<\/em>&#8220;. This is a poisoned environment and I&#8217;m afraid <strong>he could be in more danger than just being asked for a cup of coffee<\/strong> (which, oddly enough, <a title=\"Sisterhood of the Oppressed\" href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/file\/d\/0B02RDDb71N8Xc2EwYmw5T2Z4eDg\/edit?pli=1\">some people think is harassment<\/a> &#8211; go figure)!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Due to the alleged unsafe spaces and misogyny in the Atheist\/Skeptic community (?), the Center of Inquiry created Women in&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":26,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[219,218,214,215,217,220,213,107,216],"class_list":["post-675","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-cfi","tag-conference","tag-femtheism","tag-harassment","tag-justin-vacula","tag-melody-hensley","tag-ophelia-benson","tag-pz-myers","tag-stephanie-zvan"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/675","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/26"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=675"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/675\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=675"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=675"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=675"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}