{"id":645,"date":"2013-04-23T01:25:12","date_gmt":"2013-04-23T06:25:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/?p=645"},"modified":"2013-04-23T01:25:12","modified_gmt":"2013-04-23T06:25:12","slug":"keith-kloor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/2013\/04\/keith-kloor\/","title":{"rendered":"Keith Kloor is Wrong Again!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/i2.cdn.turner.com\/cnn\/dam\/assets\/130419210039-split-suspect-captured-horizontal-gallery.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Last time, <a title=\"How Keith Kloor Is Wrong\" href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/2013\/02\/15\/keith-kloor-wrong\/\"><strong>Keith Kloor<\/strong> was wrong<\/a> when he accused New Atheists of having litmus tests (in his defense, I can say, he had read <em>Pharyngula<\/em>, and it is true that whole place is filled with hate, litmus tests and paranoia about white men and privilege&#8230; and is written by a deluded privileged white man; but I digress).<\/p>\n<p>Now, <a title=\"The World According to Intolerant Atheists\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/2013\/04\/22\/the-world-according-to-intolerant-atheists\/\">Kloor did it again<\/a>, and goes after Dr. <strong>Jerry Coyne<\/strong>:<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Evolutionistrue\/status\/326513921613774848\" target=\"_blank\">tweet<\/a>\u00a0and blog\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com\/2013\/04\/22\/islam-apparently-behind-boston-bombing\/\" target=\"_blank\">post<\/a>\u00a0headline is really something:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Islam Apparently behind Boston bombing<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It\u2019s from Jerry Coyne, the evolutionary biologist who apparently would blame environmentalism for\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ted_Kaczynski\" target=\"_blank\">Ted\u00a0Kaczynski<\/a>.\u00a0I know Coyne doesn\u2019t like it when atheists are accused of being anti-Muslim, but he\u2019s a whisker from being no better than\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Pam Geller<\/a>, the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.prnewswire.com\/news-releases\/cair-releases-islamophobe-profile-of-pamela-geller-169228816.html\" target=\"_blank\">queen of Islamophobia<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m no fan of religion myself, but I\u2019m also no fan of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/collideascape\/2012\/12\/27\/the-poisoned-debates-between-science-politics-and-religion\/#.UXYIU44-R7E\" target=\"_blank\">fundamentalist atheism<\/a>, especially the kind that paints religious faiths with a broad brush.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but <strong>there&#8217;s no such thing as &#8220;fundamentalist atheism&#8221;<\/strong>, just like there&#8217;s no fundamentalist a-unicornism or a-leprechaunism!<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<a title=\"Fundamentalism\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fundamentalism\">Fundamentalism<\/a>&#8221; demands you adhere to a theological,\u00a0<em>fundamental<\/em> book &#8211; there&#8217;s no such book for negative claims, such as atheism.<\/p>\n<p>And <strong>there&#8217;s no such thing as &#8220;Islamophobia&#8221;<\/strong>, either: First of all, a <a title=\"Phobia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Phobia\">phobia<\/a> is an irrational fear &#8211; there&#8217;s no irrationality in being afraid of superstition; we&#8217;ve seen what it can do!<\/p>\n<p>Second of all, &#8216;islamophobia&#8217; it&#8217;s a term coined by (actual) fundamentalists who deem questioning Islam should be as socially rejected as racism&#8230; the thing is we&#8217;re <a title=\"On \u201cIslamophobia\u201d and Other Libels\" href=\"http:\/\/www.samharris.org\/blog\/item\/on-islamophobia-and-libels\">judging a set of <em>ideas<\/em>, not people<\/a>! And freethinking (another word familiar to this debate) is at the core of the attitude of not holding any ideas sacred or unchallengable!<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s all too bad Kloor chooses to throw his fellow Atheists under the bus and his poor choice of words! Jerry Coyne&#8217;s post, as Kloor quoted, says Islam <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">apparently<\/span> would be behind the Boston bombings. Are we supposed to ignore the religion of two terrorists, or <a title=\"Do Islamic figures have a clue how lame they sound when they condemn Muslim terrorists?\" href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/nocrossnocrescent\/2013\/04\/21\/do-islamic-figures-have-a-clue-how-lame-they-sound-when-they-condemn-muslim-terrorists\">pretend they didn&#8217;t <em>really<\/em> belong to that religion<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p>What was Coyne supposed to do when <a title=\"Islam apparently behind Boston bombing\" href=\"http:\/\/whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com\/2013\/04\/22\/islam-apparently-behind-boston-bombing\/\">this<\/a> showed up on his news feed from CNN?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Dzhokhar Tsarnaev indicated his older brother, <strong>Tamerlan, was the driving force behind the attacks and wanted to defend Islam from attack<\/strong>, the source said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Was he supposed to ignore this? What would have been the rational reaction, according to Kloor? Are we to ignore the fact that Islam is one of the few ideologies that is defended with terrorist attacks to the date? Why would anyone would do that?<\/p>\n<p>The best way to address any kind of problem is to act based on the evidence. Should we ignore the evidence, and be politically correct, just to avoid someone from taking offense? How is <em>that<\/em> going to help? I like the way Kloor engages in environmental issues, always relying on the evidence &#8211; I find it hard to believe he will dismiss the evidence when it comes to religion and how it poisons everything.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Ha Ha Islamophobia\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/RfJ6FpabknY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last time, Keith Kloor was wrong when he accused New Atheists of having litmus tests (in his defense, I can&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":26,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[205,382,88,153,31],"class_list":["post-645","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-islamophobia","tag-atheism","tag-jerry-coyne","tag-keith-kloor","tag-new-atheism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/645","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/26"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=645"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/645\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=645"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=645"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=645"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}