{"id":1189,"date":"2014-07-27T23:01:23","date_gmt":"2014-07-28T04:01:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/?p=1189"},"modified":"2014-07-27T23:01:23","modified_gmt":"2014-07-28T04:01:23","slug":"ophelia-benson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/2014\/07\/ophelia-benson\/","title":{"rendered":"The Ophelia Benson canard"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;text-align: justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/31.media.tumblr.com\/1ad73589afb36ccd29644d16d5b26e6d\/tumblr_n9cijts3Sb1qcnn8do1_500.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"260\" \/><\/div>\n<div style=\"font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;text-align: justify\">\n<p>Some of you may have already seen the <a href=\"http:\/\/richarddawkins.net\/2014\/07\/joint-statement-by-ophelia-benson-and-richard-dawkins\/\">joint statement<\/a> <strong>Richard Dawkins<\/strong> and <strong>Ophelia Benson<\/strong> released:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><!--more-->Disagreement is inevitable, but bullying and harassment are not. If we want secularism and atheism to gain respect, <strong>we have to be able to disagree with each other without trying to destroy each other<\/strong>. In other words we have to be able to <strong>manage disagreement ethically, like reasonable adults<\/strong>, as opposed to brawling like enraged children who need a nap. It should go without saying, but this means no death threats, rape threats, attacks on people\u2019s appearance, age, race, sex, size, haircut; no photoshopping people into demeaning images, no vulgar epithets.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>My fellow SINner <strong>Damion<\/strong> thinks it is &#8220;<a title=\"Dawkins and Benson confront bullying\" href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/backgroundprobability\/2014\/07\/26\/dawkins-and-benson-confront-bullying\/\">pretty uncontroversial<\/a>&#8220;, but I have to disagree with him. You just can&#8217;t expect everyone to grab their hands and sing Kumbaya, when one side of the table has engaged in and promoted bullying just for disagreements. What I mean to say: <strong>I&#8217;m calling Ophelia Benson&#8217;s bullshit<\/strong>. Before I take any word that comes from her, she needs to make amends: does she still think we&#8217;re having a <a title=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=yUQdID3EBAg\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=yUQdID3EBAg\">white supremacist movement<\/a>? You don&#8217;t get to <a href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/butterfliesandwheels\/2012\/06\/rebecca-explains\/\">liken my activism to Nazis<\/a> and then expect I&#8217;ll be all hug-y when you issue a statement. I seriously want to know if Ophelia Benson still thinks that calling to the boycott of Dawkins&#8217; books is managing &#8220;disagreement ethically, like reasonable adults&#8221;. I want to know if she still condones the way <a href=\"http:\/\/phawrongula.wikia.com\/wiki\/Attacks_on_Stef_McGraw\"><strong>Rebecca Watson<\/strong> bullied <strong>Stef McGraw<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0and got her\u00a0to\u00a0shut down her blog. What part of that is not &#8220;trying to destroy the other&#8221;? Remember <strong>Michael Payton<\/strong>, whose job was put at jeopardy just because Benson and her pals <a href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/zinniajones\/files\/2012\/08\/payton-1.png\">couldn&#8217;t figure out a tweet<\/a> and thought he had a different opinion? That&#8217;s pretty destroying, if you ask me. Does Benson still think that people should be put on jail just because someone else claims they&#8217;re rapists but fails to provide any shred of evidence whatsoever (and no, a testimony is <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Anecdotal_evidence\">not evidence<\/a>). Does she think <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/fearandloathinginatheism.wordpress.com\/2013\/08\/15\/pz-myers-self-infected-grenade-wounds\/\">Michael Shermer<\/a><\/strong> and <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/benjaminradford.com\/\">Ben Radford<\/a><\/strong> should be in jail, although there&#8217;s no evidence against any of them, and none have been convicted? Does Ophelia Benson think Schr\u00f6dinger&#8217;s Rapist and the Bechdel test are legitimate ways to approach reality, gender related issues and social conventions? How is that any different from &#8220;attacking people&#8217;s sex and appearance&#8221;? Does Ophelia Benson approve of <strong>Paul Zachary Myers<\/strong>&#8216; dishonest tactic of <a href=\"http:\/\/notungblog.wordpress.com\/2012\/07\/11\/follow-up-to-my-last-post\/\">banning rational commenters<\/a> to further the victim card? Isn&#8217;t such tactic the something proper of &#8220;enraged children&#8221;? Is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wu_bUbyTkpk\">underplaying Richard Dawkins&#8217; sex assault<\/a> a way to &#8220;manage disagreement ethically&#8221;? Is asking for coffee (in an elevator, and taking a &#8220;No&#8221; for an answer) a legitimate exercise of free speech? Or should we expect to keep having this paramount human right and civil liberty <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/2013\/05\/free-speech-vs-freeze-peach\/\">distorted<\/a>? Is comparing such a First World &#8216;problem&#8217; with FGM under Islamic societies no longer a <em>carte blanche<\/em> for bullying? And last, but not least: when will my fellow SINners bullied by Benson and her ilk get a proper apology? I&#8217;m talking specifically about <strong>Maria Maltseva<\/strong>, <strong>Staks Rosch<\/strong> and <strong>Damion Reinhardt.<\/strong>\u00a0Or should they just forget every single attack made from Benson&#8217;s side just because she issued a statement? I don&#8217;t know about you, but I think all these issues (and the <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/2012\/10\/13\/atheism-plus-we-are-atheists\/\">list is longer<\/a><\/strong>, if you should know) should be addressed and Ophelia Benson owes a hell lot of people a heartfelt apology. Her joint statement means nothing -it&#8217;s not even a bad joke- before that.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some of you may have already seen the joint statement Richard Dawkins and Ophelia Benson released:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":26,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[91,291],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1189","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atheism","category-skepticism-and-science"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1189","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/26"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1189"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1189\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1189"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1189"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skepticink.com\/avant-garde\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1189"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}